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Have any of you tried cbt or any form of therapy or are you all convinced that your way of thinking is the right way and it is everyone else who is delusional?

I would try it if it was free

Never seen a shrink in my life

Closest I came was detox. They asked a few questions then tried to prescribe me lithium for depression and some sleeping pills. I don't trust them so I never filled it.

OccultHawk

07-25-2019 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2067940)

Have any of you tried cbt or any form of therapy or are you all convinced that your way of thinking is the right way and it is everyone else who is delusional?

I tried cbt in therapy right before I quit teaching.

My therapist said that everything she listened to me gripe about was fundamentally true but I was very disproportionate about how I reacted to it. She also said I’m way above average at reading situations like with the same skills you use to navigate a difficult novel or text but I amplify the negative to very intense degrees. That’s why she was saying to make lists of positive things.

The Batlord

07-25-2019 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2067941)

but nothing you guys have said this far has convinced me I'm actually wrong. All you've criticized is my place in life. Which I already know is nothing impressive. So you've really presented me with nothing I don't already know and ignored any points I do make.

And I am trying not to push you too hard cause I know in the past I've been guilty of that. I've pushed you lightly only cause your apathy is your worst enemy and I think to some extent you are settling when you don't need to.

I know full well what my apathy is and how all-encompasing it is. Pointing it out does nothing. The point isn't that you're wrong or right or whatever, the point is that I think you're clutching for something to drag yourself out of this that is in fact just disguised self hate.

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Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2067940)

Have any of you tried cbt or any form of therapy or are you all convinced that your way of thinking is the right way and it is everyone else who is delusional?

I have no money for any of that. I'd love CBT but this country doesn't even provide for regular health insurance let alone mental health insurance.

jwb	07-25-2019 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug McClasky (Post 2067939)

Yeah I feel that. I've heard that trauma or depression or whatever in your mother when you're in utero can **** up your development. I believe it. My mother was definitely ****ed up and depressed when I was very young and I believe it started long before I can remember. I think whatever that **** was stunted my emotional growth cause none of... THIS feels like it started at any point I can look to or has anything to do with any choice I ever made or anything I was ever subjected to. It's just how I always was. Like misery and misanthropy were hardcoded into my DNA for no apparent ****ing reason.

I dunno I was pretty happy as a kid. Once I hit middle School and high school I started going to schools full of gang members and violence. And I think that over time I just let my morals fade away.

Like I remember when I was a little kid.. Like 8 years old... There was some action figure in my friends back yard and i thought about stealing it cause I wanted it but ultimately chickened out cause I imagined it would suck to have someone steal your toy. By the time I was 13 I was breaking into unsecured cars.

The Batlord

07-25-2019 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2067948)

Translation: OMG this guy's saying things I can't deal with and I'm being short with my children because of it so just give him bull**** and hope he buys it and leaves me alone.

OccultHawk

07-25-2019 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by WWWP (Post 2067943)

And then what?

Ideally then I would start a regimen of treatment and they check again periodically to see if it’s working. That’s how all mental health treatments should work imo.

And not entirely. That’s just one thing that I think should be free and standard. It doesn’t mean I’m saying that every disorder can be identified or monitored this way. But whatever the disorder, imo, getting eyes on your brain should be standard.

jwb	07-25-2019 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug McClasky (Post 2067949)

No, it's like I said. I'm behind cause I put myself behind. But I've made progress since I decided to start taking action. Nothing will change the damage I've done. Cause I shouldn't be where I am at 32. That doesn't mean all my future choices are irrelevant, which is effectively what your trying to argue.

Lucem Ferre

07-25-2019 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug McClasky (Post 2067953)

Translation: OMG this guy's saying things I can't deal with and I'm being short with my children because of it so just give him bull**** and hope he buys it and leaves me alone.

AKA: Let me grasp on ridiculous assumptions about people that I don't even know to justify my complacency in my own misery because the idea that I'm even remotely responsible for my own life scares me.