Originally Posted by Doug McClasky (Post 2067619)

Yeah that's why it's so insidious. A CEO can't afford to deal with the bottom rung as if they're people so they have to exist merely as numbers on graphs and reports, dehumanizing anyone below a certain level of their awareness, and anyone below hoping move up that ladder have to internalize to greater and greater degrees the idea that employees below them are numbers and not people and therefore disposable. I'm not willing to adopt that mentality.

I don't particularly care for most people but that doesn't mean I'm a sociopath who doesn't care how my actions affect them. My misanthropy softens with proximity and duration to others and while I still have little desire to be around them for long periods of time or learn the details of their lives it still bothered the hell out of me when my co-worker who'd had a c-section had to go back to work after like a week off. How much more emotionally dead would I have to become to be that guy who enforced that?

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2067633)

My sister manages a fast food place. She just got her bachelor's and is applying for her own franchise. She's far from a sociopath. She has more morals than I do. She just wants a better life for her and her daughter.

I'm not even saying rise through the ranks at BK. I worked at Walmart and I had an opportunity to get fast tracked for management and I turned it down for similar reasons. But don't write off the prospect of success completely, man. I believe that mentality is a trap. Some of the more cynical socialist types would ironically rather you stay a wage slave so long as that keeps you loyal to the cause. That's the real reason success and wealth are frowned upon by those circles imo.

Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2067630)

Yep

Originally Posted by Doug McClasky (Post 2067634)

At the store level you can still be a human being. Rising above that requires a different level of company loyalty and that mentality bleeds down into the store level as well. Shift managers tend to be fine but even becoming store manager tends to either make you an ******* or make you stop giving a **** and stagnate.

Originally Posted by jwb (Post 2067637)

like I said she's the manager of the restaurant not a shift manager.

Originally Posted by Doug McClasky (Post 2067638)

There are good ones but it's the level that starts to separate the people with a real sense of themselves and people who will grow to be *******s. After that I'm hard pressed to think of any mid-level management who wasn't either a ****bag or dead/dying inside.

Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2067641)

Sad but true. Yes.