You're literally describing cause and effect but adding more words that affect nothing. Stop giving yourself so much credit by assuming you said anything intelligent.

Yeah yeah, making fun of it more doesn't change the fact that you got stumped. Hide from the point.

What does this word mean? Is this the secret behind free will?!

Yes.

What I said was fairly clear and understandable.

It's nothing like your "soul death" nonsense.

Are you being ironic or do you really dismiss my argument as nothing more than making fun? I assure you it wasn't.

I didn't read it properly, I was upset.


If everything is predetermined then what sets us apart is our consciousness. That awareness would be what we call free will. Regardless predetermination isn't actually proven. Yet.

Edit: Quantum particles being the evidence against predetermination so far.

How is it nonsense? If you have no free will then accepting that in your mind 100% in an existential way would destroy your concept of yourself as you knew it. There's no hope in you accomplishing anything, simply hope that the universe unravels in a way that benefits you. You can't live like that, or at least society isn't yet capable of molding people to live like that.

So free will is a meaningless and unnecessary concept. We could also just talk about consciousness
Even if the universe is not predetermined and there is randomness, for example due to quantum mechanics, this doesn't imply free will. Then we are just slaves to chance instead of predetermination.

What do you mean "sets us apart"? How does it set us apart? It's just another thing.

A Christian argument.