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Old 06-19-2019, 09:52 AM   #62421 (permalink)
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I think I was getting somewhere when I asked if pool balls had brains. I mean, has anybody even thought of that before?
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Old 06-19-2019, 09:57 AM   #62422 (permalink)
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if the universe is predetermined then you can say there is no choice is what I'm getting at
I don't see the two as being at at odds (even though calling a predictable universe predetermined is a gross misrepresentation). But again, both sides are clearly working with different parameters of what choice is and both sides are unwilling to recognize that and it's all dogma and blah blah blah
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Old 06-19-2019, 10:24 AM   #62423 (permalink)
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Old 06-19-2019, 12:14 PM   #62424 (permalink)
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I’m not willing to entertain discussion with people who don’t understand cause and effect.

It’s true than theories like panpsychism or consciousness not even existing are far fetched. It’s a matter of grasping at straws to help contemplate a very bewildering question but there’s a prerequisite of things you have to understand before you’re ready to have those discussions. The indisputable impossibility of free will must be understood and accepted before you can move on.

It’s true that me entertaining the arguments of people who can’t grasp this caused a circular and stupid unproductive conversation.

I’ll discuss the nature of consciousness and self with Batlord but I’m not having these discussions with people who aren’t ready anymore.
So basically you were cornered with information that you couldn't retort so you're doing all that you can to avoid admitting that you don't know.

Again, you argue like a Christian defending theism. Using the same exact 'logic'.
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Old 06-19-2019, 01:31 PM   #62425 (permalink)
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hard determinism =/= a predetermined universe

anyway the only thing worth worshipping is the utter chaos and absurdity of it all
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Old 06-19-2019, 01:45 PM   #62426 (permalink)
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hard determinism =/= a predetermined universe

anyway the only thing worth worshipping is the utter chaos and absurdity of it all


Edit: I should have done Lil Pump actually.
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Old 06-19-2019, 05:08 PM   #62427 (permalink)
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Old 06-19-2019, 05:17 PM   #62428 (permalink)
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Old 06-19-2019, 07:40 PM   #62429 (permalink)
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So basically you were cornered with information that you couldn't retort so you're doing all that you can to avoid admitting that you don't know.

Again, you argue like a Christian defending theism. Using the same exact 'logic'.
It's hard to argue against vague, meaningless bull****.
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Old 06-19-2019, 08:06 PM   #62430 (permalink)
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It's hard to argue against vague, meaningless bull****.
No matter how barebones and simply I broke it down I got the same response and accusations. *Flashback to special education teaching*
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