Your Day - Music Banter Music Banter

Go Back   Music Banter > Community Center > The Lounge
Your Day Your Day
Register Blogging Today's Posts
Welcome to Music Banter Forum! Make sure to register - it's free and very quick! You have to register before you can post and participate in our discussions with over 70,000 other registered members. After you create your free account, you will be able to customize many options, you will have the full access to over 1,100,000 posts.

Reply
Page 6234 of 7906 « First 5234573461346184622462326233 6234 6235623662446284633467347234 Last »
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-18-2019, 06:32 PM   #62331 (permalink)
Cuter Than Post Malone.
 
Lucem Ferre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 4,978
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug McClasky View Post
Okay, let's take this down to its most easily understood concept and move on from there. If I'm playing pool and I hit a pool ball so that it rebounds from the wall of a pool table that ball will rebound in a trajectory that is mathematically calculable, right? Don't add anything to that, just, is that logical?
Yes.
__________________
Quote:
Lucem, you're right, it's silly to talk about what I would or wouldn't do IRL. Glad you brought it up. Maybe you should write an instrumental about it. I recommend a piano paired with a clarinet. With ambient sounds of you hanging from your shower curtain you ****ing failure.

Art Is Dead. Buy My ****.
Lucem Ferre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2019, 06:36 PM   #62332 (permalink)
Cuter Than Post Malone.
 
Lucem Ferre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 4,978
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by OccultHawk View Post
If you’re talking to Batlord you obviously don’t understand what he’s saying.
Yes, live as if you have free will and others don't to better understand and react to things.
__________________
Quote:
Lucem, you're right, it's silly to talk about what I would or wouldn't do IRL. Glad you brought it up. Maybe you should write an instrumental about it. I recommend a piano paired with a clarinet. With ambient sounds of you hanging from your shower curtain you ****ing failure.

Art Is Dead. Buy My ****.
Lucem Ferre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2019, 06:38 PM   #62333 (permalink)
Zum Henker Defätist!!
 
The Batlord's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Beating GNR at DDR and keying Axl's new car
Posts: 48,199
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre View Post
Yes.
Then what is fundamentally different about a pool ball rebounding off a pool table wall and human choice?

What is fundamentally different about one thing that is definable and predictable by math and human choice?

What PRECISELY is the difference? There has to be a precise difference or else both are mathematically calculable.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien
There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
The Batlord is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2019, 06:46 PM   #62334 (permalink)
Cuter Than Post Malone.
 
Lucem Ferre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 4,978
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug McClasky View Post
Then what is fundamentally different about a pool ball rebounding off a pool table wall and human choice?

What is fundamentally different about one thing that is definable and predictable by math and human choice?
See, I knew you were going to try and make it into a debate about whether or not free will exists when that's not the discussion.


The difference though, is that an inanimate object lacks a brain to give it consciousness. It is unaware of what it does. It only reacts to physical causes. Humans have complex brains that give them a better awareness of their surroundings. They don't just purely react to what's physical, they react to the information they gather to try and manipulate the outcome into their preference. Whether or not it's calculable is irrelevant. Oh, and preference is also something pool balls don't have.
__________________
Quote:
Lucem, you're right, it's silly to talk about what I would or wouldn't do IRL. Glad you brought it up. Maybe you should write an instrumental about it. I recommend a piano paired with a clarinet. With ambient sounds of you hanging from your shower curtain you ****ing failure.

Art Is Dead. Buy My ****.
Lucem Ferre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2019, 06:52 PM   #62335 (permalink)
SOPHIE FOREVER
 
Frownland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: East of the Southern North American West
Posts: 35,541
Default
Gravity and inertia don't exist because the outcome of a pool ball when hit can be accurately predicted, can never be changed under the same conditions, and pool balls aren't magic. Anyone who believes the Christian paradigm of gravity or inertia doesn't warrant a serious response on the subject.
__________________
Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.
Frownland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2019, 06:57 PM   #62336 (permalink)
Cuter Than Post Malone.
 
Lucem Ferre's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 4,978
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frownland View Post
Gravity and inertia don't exist because the outcome of a pool ball when hit can be accurately predicted, can never be changed under the same conditions, and pool balls aren't magic. Anyone who believes the Christian paradigm of gravity or inertia doesn't warrant a serious response on the subject.
You forget to tell them that they just aren't there yet.
__________________
Quote:
Lucem, you're right, it's silly to talk about what I would or wouldn't do IRL. Glad you brought it up. Maybe you should write an instrumental about it. I recommend a piano paired with a clarinet. With ambient sounds of you hanging from your shower curtain you ****ing failure.

Art Is Dead. Buy My ****.
Lucem Ferre is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2019, 06:59 PM   #62337 (permalink)
Mord
 
Zhanteimi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Tokyo
Posts: 4,873
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frownland View Post
the Christian paradigm of gravity or inertia
__________________
Zhanteimi

LetsTalkMusic
Zhanteimi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2019, 07:00 PM   #62338 (permalink)
SOPHIE FOREVER
 
Frownland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: East of the Southern North American West
Posts: 35,541
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Zhanteimi View Post
The only reason that anyone believes in gravity or inertia is because they grew up in a Christian society where it seemed like the default stance. Anyone with a brain cell to their name recognizes that gravity and inertia are retarded.
__________________
Studies show that when a given norm is changed in the face of the unchanging, the remaining contradictions will parallel the truth.
Frownland is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2019, 07:02 PM   #62339 (permalink)
Zum Henker Defätist!!
 
The Batlord's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Beating GNR at DDR and keying Axl's new car
Posts: 48,199
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre View Post
See, I knew you were going to try and make it into a debate about whether or not free will exists when that's not the discussion.


The difference though, is that an inanimate object lacks a brain to give it consciousness. It is unaware of what it does. It only reacts to physical causes. Humans have complex brains that give them a better awareness of their surroundings. They don't just purely react to what's physical, they react to the information they gather to try and manipulate the outcome into their preference. Whether or not it's calculable is irrelevant. Oh, and preference is also something pool balls don't have.
Yeah, I'm aware of awareness. I'm not retarded. Remember the phrase that you yourself used: "better awareness". Better awareness means nothing. It's just more complexity in thought which means that it's harder to define and therefore harder to... define. There's no added meaning. It's just harder to... think about. That's entirely it.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by J.R.R. Tolkien
There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
The Batlord is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-18-2019, 07:03 PM   #62340 (permalink)
ask me about cosmology
 
Mindy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Milky Way Galaxy
Posts: 9,015
Default
Quote:
Originally Posted by Frownland View Post
The only reason that anyone believes in gravity or inertia is because they grew up in a Christian society where it seemed like the default stance. Anyone with a brain cell to their name recognizes that gravity and inertia are retarded.
idk about that Frownman, gravity sures hurts if an apple falls on your head lol

just thought about how weird it would be to think about how a man or woman on the bottom southern hemisphere of the moon, would be standing upside down to us on earth i think lol

also Frownman, what about waves....
Mindy is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 6234 of 7906 « First 5234573461346184622462326233 6234 6235623662446284633467347234 Last »

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »


Terms & Privacy - Contact Us - Music Banter - Archive - Top

© 2003-2024 Advameg, Inc.