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Lucem Ferre 06-18-2019 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug McClasky (Post 2061815)
Okay, let's take this down to its most easily understood concept and move on from there. If I'm playing pool and I hit a pool ball so that it rebounds from the wall of a pool table that ball will rebound in a trajectory that is mathematically calculable, right? Don't add anything to that, just, is that logical?

Yes.

Lucem Ferre 06-18-2019 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2061819)
If you’re talking to Batlord you obviously don’t understand what he’s saying.

Yes, live as if you have free will and others don't to better understand and react to things.

The Batlord 06-18-2019 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2061820)
Yes.

Then what is fundamentally different about a pool ball rebounding off a pool table wall and human choice?

What is fundamentally different about one thing that is definable and predictable by math and human choice?

What PRECISELY is the difference? There has to be a precise difference or else both are mathematically calculable.

Lucem Ferre 06-18-2019 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug McClasky (Post 2061822)
Then what is fundamentally different about a pool ball rebounding off a pool table wall and human choice?

What is fundamentally different about one thing that is definable and predictable by math and human choice?

See, I knew you were going to try and make it into a debate about whether or not free will exists when that's not the discussion.


The difference though, is that an inanimate object lacks a brain to give it consciousness. It is unaware of what it does. It only reacts to physical causes. Humans have complex brains that give them a better awareness of their surroundings. They don't just purely react to what's physical, they react to the information they gather to try and manipulate the outcome into their preference. Whether or not it's calculable is irrelevant. Oh, and preference is also something pool balls don't have.

Frownland 06-18-2019 06:52 PM

Gravity and inertia don't exist because the outcome of a pool ball when hit can be accurately predicted, can never be changed under the same conditions, and pool balls aren't magic. Anyone who believes the Christian paradigm of gravity or inertia doesn't warrant a serious response on the subject.

Lucem Ferre 06-18-2019 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2061824)
Gravity and inertia don't exist because the outcome of a pool ball when hit can be accurately predicted, can never be changed under the same conditions, and pool balls aren't magic. Anyone who believes the Christian paradigm of gravity or inertia doesn't warrant a serious response on the subject.

You forget to tell them that they just aren't there yet.

Zhanteimi 06-18-2019 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2061824)
the Christian paradigm of gravity or inertia

:confused:

Frownland 06-18-2019 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Zhanteimi (Post 2061827)
:confused:

The only reason that anyone believes in gravity or inertia is because they grew up in a Christian society where it seemed like the default stance. Anyone with a brain cell to their name recognizes that gravity and inertia are retarded.

The Batlord 06-18-2019 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre (Post 2061823)
See, I knew you were going to try and make it into a debate about whether or not free will exists when that's not the discussion.


The difference though, is that an inanimate object lacks a brain to give it consciousness. It is unaware of what it does. It only reacts to physical causes. Humans have complex brains that give them a better awareness of their surroundings. They don't just purely react to what's physical, they react to the information they gather to try and manipulate the outcome into their preference. Whether or not it's calculable is irrelevant. Oh, and preference is also something pool balls don't have.

Yeah, I'm aware of awareness. I'm not retarded. Remember the phrase that you yourself used: "better awareness". Better awareness means nothing. It's just more complexity in thought which means that it's harder to define and therefore harder to... define. There's no added meaning. It's just harder to... think about. That's entirely it.

Mindy 06-18-2019 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 2061828)
The only reason that anyone believes in gravity or inertia is because they grew up in a Christian society where it seemed like the default stance. Anyone with a brain cell to their name recognizes that gravity and inertia are retarded.

idk about that Frownman, gravity sures hurts if an apple falls on your head lol

just thought about how weird it would be to think about how a man or woman on the bottom southern hemisphere of the moon, would be standing upside down to us on earth i think lol

also Frownman, what about waves.... :pimp:


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