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The Batlord 06-18-2019 03:15 PM

****in' hell that's terrible. I ain't tellin' you how to do your business since you're the one who has to live off it but I'd be giving that dude's friend mad discounts on those records.

OccultHawk 06-18-2019 03:16 PM

I wonder if he knew about addiction before he started.

I get that it’s really sad but sometimes I’m just like ffs. Instead of selling your record collection go get help. Get the number for NA and the next time he comes in tell him to go there. It’s not just meetings. They always know the best mental health options and addiction treatments.

OccultHawk 06-18-2019 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug McClasky (Post 2061772)
****in' hell that's terrible. I ain't tellin' you how to do your business since you're the one who has to live off it but I'd be giving that dude's friend mad discounts on those records.

If the junky gets them back he’ll just sell them again. You gotta kick and you gotta deal with it for the rest of your life.

Mindy 06-18-2019 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 2061770)
We've had this dude about my age coming in over the last two months selling his record collection piece by piece. Metal, punk, grindcore, hardcore, darkwave, indie...all sorts of great f*cking stuff. We had our suspicions that drugs were involved because he was very remorseful about selling them and also vague as to why he needed the money. Either way, he sort of became a friend of the store.

One of his friends who shops here pretty much guessed that the influx of awesome records that we've been getting have been coming from him. He asked us to call him next time he comes in because he'd like to buy them. Now, I thought this was just a dude that wanted to get his friends records on the sly. Was wrong about that. Turns out he wanted to buy them because he knows how much they mean to him and he pretty much told us about the dudes drug issues without outright saying it. My guess is that he's paying off a dealer with the proceeds. We have paid him close to ten thousand dollars for the collection so you can guess how good these records are. Original presses. Took a long time to collect these.

I know they're just records but it makes me very sad that he's had to resort to selling his possessions, albeit for more than fair prices, to get out of trouble. It's been hard to buy these knowing what I thought I knew, and now, basically being told my assumptions were correct.

He just left. He gave me a hug and said thanks. Now I'm all sad.

Don't do drugs peoples.

thats a sad story, and wow at how much the collection was worth. you are enabling his addiction a little :o: maybe start further conversation since hes a regular and tell him that you're worried. thats a hard scenario to move further on with.. sucks you're in that situation also :/

edit: OH's idea of slipping him a idea of NA would probably help ya EXO because you can say you tried to help atleast.

OccultHawk 06-18-2019 03:28 PM

I thought you couldn’t live on yang’s $1000

Exo 06-18-2019 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug McClasky (Post 2061772)
****in' hell that's terrible. I ain't tellin' you how to do your business since you're the one who has to live off it but I'd be giving that dude's friend mad discounts on those records.

He couldn't afford what we even paid for them. It's sad. We found out way too late. We even gave him a lot of opportunity to keep stuff. He never admitted to us he had an issue. Just that he was out of work.

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Originally Posted by Mindfulness (Post 2061777)
thats a sad story, and wow at how much the collection was worth. you are enabling his addiction a little :o: maybe start further conversation since hes a regular and tell him that you're worried. thats a hard scenario to move further on with.. sucks you're in that situation also :/

edit: OH's idea of slipping him a idea of NA would probably help ya EXO because you can say you tried to help atleast.

We didn't know until just now. See the above response. I have a vast family history with drugs. Had I known about this, I'd have tried to help him. Plus, I don't know what kind of trouble he is in. He might be in a dealers pocket for all I know and this ten grand IS helping him. I know for sure other stores wouldn't have paid him as well as us.

The Batlord 06-18-2019 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2061774)
I wonder if he knew about addiction before he started.

I get that it’s really sad but sometimes I’m just like ffs. Instead of selling your record collection go get help. Get the number for NA and the next time he comes in tell him to go there. It’s not just meetings. They always know the best mental health options and addiction treatments.

But that means letting the world know that the world inside your head is a wasteland that's been crumbling for quite possibly your entire life. I got a booze problem but it's nothing like what I imagine this guy is going through but I also have a me problem that I don't want anyone to know about so I can understand why that + an intense feeling of need for a thing would make seeking help feel almost like summoning the devil to just get on with Revelations already.

I mean we don't have free will, right? And whatever passes for free will in the human brain getting co-opted by chemicals? When you're seeing it in person you're reacting to your own emotions about how that person's actions are affecting you or other people you know but you're not reacting to the hell inside that person's head. There's just no meaningful way to judge that ****.

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk (Post 2061776)
If the junky gets them back he’ll just sell them again. You gotta kick and you gotta deal with it for the rest of your life.

I'm sure, but maybe the friend will keep them in his basement until the other guy gets clean.

Mindy 06-18-2019 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 2061780)
He couldn't afford what we even paid for them. It's sad. We found out way too late. We even gave him a lot of opportunity to keep stuff. He never admitted to us he had an issue. Just that he was out of work.



We didn't know until just now. See the above response. I have a vast family history with drugs. Had I known about this, I'd have tried to help him. Plus, I don't know what kind of trouble he is in. He might be in a dealers pocket for all I know and this ten grand IS helping him. I know for sure other stores wouldn't have paid him as well as us.

wish ya the best with future interactions with him :beer:

Exo 06-18-2019 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Doug McClasky (Post 2061781)
I'm sure, but maybe the friend will keep them in his basement until the other guy gets clean.

I think that was his intent.

OccultHawk 06-18-2019 03:41 PM

the free will issue is irrelevant

you ALWAYS have to pretend you have free will

It’s not situational because you NEVER have free will

When you need help you get help

Exo yeah I thought that too he’s in the hole to a dealer / there’s nothing wrong with buying his records / I’ve sold records - who cares? You can still listen to the music.

I’m just saying tell him to get help.


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