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Old 05-13-2019, 08:07 PM   #60821 (permalink)
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Captain America is just plain beautiful.
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Old 05-13-2019, 09:32 PM   #60822 (permalink)
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Captain America is just plain beautiful.
He really is. The beautiful thing about Captain America is that he's about whatever any country's "wonderful human" is supposed to be about. All people want to be who Captain America is, all people aspire to that person. The flag means nothing, it's just a design, the person who it wraps around is simply there to be amazed by.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 05-13-2019, 09:36 PM   #60823 (permalink)
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He really is. The beautiful thing about Captain America is that he's about whatever any country's "wonderful human" is supposed to be about. All people want to be who Captain America is, all people aspire to that person. The flag means nothing, it's just a design, the person who it wraps around is simply there to be amazed by.
I'm super drunk btw but totally stand by this and want to expound upon this because Captain America is the ultimate superhero and this idea means everything but I'm kinda done right now.
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Old 05-13-2019, 09:38 PM   #60824 (permalink)
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As someone who was horribly abused and bullied as a child, I find Cap to be the most appealing superhero.
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Old 05-13-2019, 09:45 PM   #60825 (permalink)
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As someone who was horribly abused and bullied as a child, I find Cap to be the most appealing superhero.
Cap's the guy who actually cares about you. Cap wants to know you're doing alright. All the other heroes will be worried about everything else, but Cap will stop everything to make sure everything went okay for you. He's Marvel's Superman, and that's everything, cause Superman is the ultimate superhero who only ever cares about you, yes, YOU, and Cap too. The only thing that both care about is if YOU personally are alright right now.
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Old 05-13-2019, 09:49 PM   #60826 (permalink)
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oh man I feel so much better right now

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Old 05-13-2019, 10:05 PM   #60827 (permalink)
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oh man I feel so much better right now

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I mean I know. It's some bull**** for hateful people like us, but there are people who believe that there is something greater, something that will make our lives better, and Captain America is that guy and we are liable to fall flat on our face while he's looking out for us like we're spaghetti in a strainer cause how the **** do you even follow his optimism? And that's what it's really about. There are just ideas of goodness that us people can't follow but we still can touch that ****.
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Old 05-13-2019, 10:09 PM   #60828 (permalink)
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In vino veritas.
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Old 05-13-2019, 10:12 PM   #60829 (permalink)
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OMG I'm bout to watch the first Avengers and I feel like it's gonna be like the first time I ever watched Avengers cause I don't know that I was ever this much about Cap.
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Old 05-13-2019, 10:18 PM   #60830 (permalink)
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Captain America probably hates minorities. His character, at least in the MCU but I don't think I'm wrong in assuming it's the same in the comics, is meant to appeal to conservative America. A heterosexual straight white male dressed in nationalist American flag garb and shoving the blind altruist ideas of self sacrifice for your country down people's throats. His whole battle with iron man is meant to parallel things like guns rights, putting him on the libertarian, america loving, right wing side. It's even essentially taking a stance against gun rights by implying that Tony was wrong this whole time. In reality, while I can agree that Cap's intentions have always come off as good, I'd argue that he's really just a blind chess piece living out his patriot fantasies with out second guessing his actions and his altruistic nature is reflective of what he's been told is a hero the whole time. Ironman isn't exactly wrong in wanting to have a bit more control on making sure heroes act responsibly to reduce the casualties. Where he gets it wrong is by putting it in the hands of the American government which will predictably abuse it. Look at how ****ty we handle our military, we don't truly give a **** about casualties. So I can't side with Ironman's cause because it was too impulsive, but as a hero I'd have to side with him because he's much more intelligent, he's much more thoughtful, and he's much easier to relate to since he doesn't expect everybody to have a martyr fetish to be considered a hero even though he himself is willing to be the martyr if there is absolutely no other way. I don't think he has a power fetish, I think he resents the power he has because he hates feeling the weight of the responsibilities it puts on his shoulders.
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