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Psy-Fi · 03-29-2019, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by WWWP

I thought we were talking about me.

You and elph were plowed under and buried in the derailment.

DwnWthVwls · 03-29-2019, 12:28 PM

Hierarchy not matriarchy! Duh

Lucem Ferre · 03-29-2019, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

It is impossible to do anything about it currently, which is why I started citing statistics and studies about how demographics were ultimately going to end up by 2046 or so. In a sense, that itself is the solution.

No it's actually not. Making racism taboo and teaching people it's wrong is what's brought us so for from where we were. Don't pretend like you weren't defending white supremacy.

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My comments about China and Hispanic majorities was entirely a joke, based on the fact that I enjoy a lot of sci-fi and alternative history that dive deep into these kinds of ideas. For example, I read a great alternative history novel around two years ago about the Aztecs winning against Cortez. The book was by a gay African-American sci-fi author with a background in engineering, and it was fascinating to see how he mapped out society from that point in history forward, since he ended up exploring how the modern world ultimately turned out because of that one key event.

If it was just a joke then why did you defend it when Batlord called you out for defending white supremacy? You're being extremely phony here, quit trying to revise it.

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Anyone who reads enough or spends enough time looking at any of this stuff can conclude that racial hierarchies as a whole inevitably result in some kind of marginalization. The question is, what do you do to create a world where race becomes entirely meaningless to the vast majority of people?

A racial hierarchy by definition will have marginalization. Did you mean to say racial majorities? If so that is a stupid defense because there are tons of things that hadn't been done until we did it.

It's impossible to create a world where race is completely meaningless. It is possible to create societies where race has a minimum impact on your life. A step to that is getting rid racial biases that exist in our system. Like, if you moved to Canada and took your defense of white supremacy with you it'd be a small step in helping us move forward.

Anteater · 03-29-2019, 12:47 PM

Lol you are so mad for no reason. Apparently a logical analysis of this issue in 2019 is "defending white supremacy" because you don't like the fact that I told you it was impossible to solve right now. How does that work? Like I told you in that other thread, why don't you go to China and go whine about something that can only be solved through a gradual demographic shift to something a little more balanced?

White nationalism and supremacy are only as much of an issue as you actually decide to do anything about (which in your case seems to be zilch), and unless you can come up with something practical to eliminate said biases of society before the mid 2040's I think you should give it some actual thought. Any legislation that actually contributes to fixing these issues should be practical (or at least more nuanced than affirmative action and similar prerogatives). What can you bring to the table that's more practical than what the media propose?

Your ad hominem attacks are kinda funny though, I'll give you that.

The Batlord · 03-29-2019, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls

I think i agree without giving it much thought. I think elph and possibly OH are against even the kind of hierarchy i presented and i wasnt sure if Lucem was as well. Im not interested in this lucem/ant discussion just the hierarchy part.

I don't think the answer to hierarchy can be given by modern society as we're still eating from the poisoned fruit. Enforced hierarchy (legally or otherwise) will always encourage submissiveness, which encourages a stratified society, and people comprehensively raised in such a society from birth are going to believe that handing over their autonomy to a third party is to some extent not only justified but right and proper. My autonomy should be something I give away like a miser clutching a crumpled dollar bill and only when necessary. At the moment it's just "the way of things".

Oriphiel · 03-29-2019, 01:23 PM

Lucem Ferre · 03-29-2019, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Anteater

Lol you are so mad for no reason. Apparently a logical analysis of this issue in 2019 is "defending white supremacy" because you don't like the fact that I told you it was impossible to solve right now. How does that work? Like I told you in that other thread, why don't you go to China and go whine about something that can only be solved through a gradual demographic shift to something a little more balanced?

Dude, you're mad because I told you to get out of my country for defending white nationalism and white supremacy and that is the most hilarious irony of all. Especially when you bent over backwards to stick false perspectives on me AND revise your own narrative.

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White nationalism and supremacy are only as much of an issue as you actually decide to do anything about (which in your case seems to be zilch), and unless you can come up with something practical to eliminate said biases of society before the mid 2040's I think you should give it some actual thought. Any legislation that actually contributes to fixing these issues should be practical (or at least more nuanced than affirmative action and similar prerogatives). What can you bring to the table that's more practical than what the media propose?

White supremacy doesn't stop becoming a problem because I did nothing about it. I have done something about it. Contrary to your own smug perspective on it, simple expressions of distaste towards these biases influences people much more than you think.

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Your ad hominem attacks are kinda funny though, I'll give you that.

Gosh, bat is right. I just imagine a nasally dude with thick glasses saying that. It's like you're too high on your own smugness to acknowledge that you've been trying to hide your own bull**** behind personal attacks, straw men, and red herrings this whole time. Calling out my 'ad hominems' as if you're not guilty of the same thing. Get off the high horse when you're done riding it out of my country.

The Batlord · 03-29-2019, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

Gosh, bat is right. I just imagine a nasally dude with thick glasses saying that.

I'm pretty sure if me and Ant ever met up we'd get on like two peas in a pod but if I can get more people to think he's a dork then my work is done.

Lucem Ferre · 03-29-2019, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dharma & Greg

I'm pretty sure if me and Ant ever met up we'd get on like two peas in a pod but if I can get more people to think he's a dork then my work is done.

You say that about everybody.

I bet he has a really suave and smooth voice though. It'd be totally awesome to know what shenanigans you two get up to if you were to visit him in Canada.

DwnWthVwls · 03-29-2019, 01:51 PM

It only gets faster the older you get. Slow down cowboy.

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