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Old 09-05-2018, 10:00 PM   #55191 (permalink)
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The only answer for an addict is abstinence for life. No matter how hard or simplistic or brutally blunt that may come across it’s still true. It’s also true that abstinence means not using. An addict has to stop forever. I don’t care if a five year old can say that and the obviousness of it invites derision. It is true and it is that simple. Doesn’t mean it’s easy but unequivocally it’s what has to be done.
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Old 09-05-2018, 10:02 PM   #55192 (permalink)
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The only answer for an addict is abstinence for life.
This is the generally accepted wisdom. You can't ride the line.
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Old 09-05-2018, 10:05 PM   #55193 (permalink)
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The only answer for an addict is abstinence for life. No matter how hard or simplistic or brutally blunt that may come across it’s still true. It’s also true that abstinence means not using. An addict has to stop forever. I don’t care if a five year old can say that and the obviousness of it invites derision. It is true and it is that simple. Doesn’t mean it’s easy but unequivocally it’s what has to be done.
Sure yeah. Just understand that I'm coming from a mindset of having to learn what addiction was at a very young age. I probably saw my brother go through every stage an addict goes through. Multiple times.

I mean, he plead guilty to a felony due partly to him being an addict. And thats not the only charge. I get it. He has to stop on his own. Doesn't make it any less offensive when someone else says "what's so hard about it?" I know you meant no harm but it's ****ing hard. I could tell that just by watching my brother constantly go through it.
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Old 09-05-2018, 10:10 PM   #55194 (permalink)
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The AC in my car burned out unexpectedly when I got in the car to drive two hours home yesterday. The heat was brutal.

Took it back to the dealership today (I bought it 10 months ago) and they charged me $130 to tell me that I had $2000 in repairs required to pass inspection next month.

The replacement AC unit will take another week so I'll be driving around in the scorching heat for the next week.

And I'm out the full $2,000 as the car only came with a 90-day warranty.

Not the best day. Canceling my plans to order SotL vinyl.
I can't feel the frustration through my computer screen. I had to make two spare keys for my car a few months ago and it cost me around $130 too. I would have stormed back in there if my parents weren't the ones who covered it.
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Sure yeah. Just understand that I'm coming from a mindset of having to learn what addiction was at a very young age. I probably saw my brother go through every stage an addict goes through. Multiple times.

I mean, he plead guilty to a felony due partly to him being an addict. And thats not the only charge. I get it. He has to stop on his own. Doesn't make it any less offensive when someone else says "what's so hard about it?" I know you meant no harm but it's ****ing hard. I could tell that just by watching my brother constantly go through it.
I never said what’s so hard about it. I know what’s so ****ing hard about it.
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Old 09-05-2018, 10:20 PM   #55196 (permalink)
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they've found that there's different kinds of alcoholism though

it became conventional wisdom that to be an addict is to have the genetics to be physically predisposed to addiction and in that case you'd have to abstain

but one can be dependent upon a substance for self-medication in which case if an alternative cure can be found for the condition that is being medicated the addiction is not permanent
Maybe. But why **** with it. No drug is that important.

Even if you get at the root I still say stay the **** away. Especially if you’re already a dying old ****.
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No drug is that important.
They are if you're an addict.
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I never said what’s so hard about it. I know what’s so ****ing hard about it.
You're right. I misread your original post. I just checked. Sorry.
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You're right. I misread your original post. I just checked. Sorry.
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They are if you're an addict.
You know you’re taking **** the wrong way
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