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Old 07-25-2018, 06:31 PM   #54151 (permalink)
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While I'm not in any way advocating or asking for a ban for anyone, I feel that it should be noted that someone here has broken the rule quoted in the OP, basically trying to bait someone else into a flame war or to try to push them off the forum through harassment. We all know who I refer to. Can it please be reiterated that this is not acceptable behaviour, especially when it clearly affects the targeted member so seriously?

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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 07-25-2018, 06:32 PM   #54152 (permalink)
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Anyone who drink drives/drunk drives/DUI/DWI/delete as appopriate to your country/county/state/planet needs to look at videos of people - innocent people - whose lives have been torn apart by some selfish arrogant **** who couldn't care less that he or she was drunk, or over the limit, when they got behind the wheel. Paralysis, brain damage, broken limbs, blindness - and those are the lucky ones. Then there are the kids who will never grow up because some selfish arrogant **** couldn't care less that he or she was drunk, or over the limit, when they got behind the wheel.
If you're so sure that they don't know what drunk driving can lead to, how can you be upset with them for not taking steps to avoid it? How can you solve a problem that you're not even aware of?
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Old 07-25-2018, 06:35 PM   #54153 (permalink)
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slight exaggeration there?
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If you're so sure that they don't know what drunk driving can lead to, how can you be upset with them for not taking steps to avoid it? How can you solve a problem that you're not even aware of?
Do me a lemon. I'm quite sure they DO know what it can lead to, which is the whole point. A) they know it's against the law B) we've all seen the ads for road safety/don't drink and drive and most importantly c) they have a brain.

@ Batty: don't be dim. I already explained my position vis a vis JTF. I just hope he learns a lesson, like Qwerty says he does too. The post is not directed at any member, but at the behaviour of people in general who think that it's ok to drink and drive.

Also: don't be drunk on your bike. Just as bad.
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Old 07-25-2018, 06:37 PM   #54154 (permalink)
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Anyone who drink drives/drunk drives/DUI/DWI/delete as appopriate to your country/county/state/planet needs to look at videos of people - innocent people - whose lives have been torn apart by some selfish arrogant **** who couldn't care less that he or she was drunk, or over the limit, when they got behind the wheel. Paralysis, brain damage, broken limbs, blindness - and those are the lucky ones. Then there are the kids who will never grow up because some selfish arrogant **** couldn't care less that he or she was drunk, or over the limit, when they got behind the wheel.

**** you if you do, did, or intend to do this. You belong in Hell and you should be prevented from ever driving again. It's not that you killed, injured or maimed someone, but that you could have done and you don't give the slightest **** you loser ****.

Here's a whole page of videos showing the consequences of your selfishness and stupidity and ignorance. Knock yourselves out.

https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...+drunk+drivers
Sober drivers kill and maim people, too.
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Old 07-25-2018, 06:42 PM   #54155 (permalink)
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Sober drivers kill and maim people, too.
Exactly. People make mistakes, doesn't mean we should go to hell. If he's only speaking about people that hurt other people or God forbid kill them, then maybe they do deserve to go to hell, but mistakes happen and we all learn from them hopefully.
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Old 07-25-2018, 06:42 PM   #54156 (permalink)
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Do me a lemon. I'm quite sure they DO know what it can lead to, which is the whole point. A) they know it's against the law B) we've all seen the ads for road safety/don't drink and drive and most importantly c) they have a brain.
If they do know what it can lead to, then why do they need to watch videos of it? They already know what the videos entail of.

Regarding your points:
A) Laws are largely unethical.
B) Not everybody has a TV.
C) Naivete is not unethical.
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Old 07-25-2018, 06:45 PM   #54157 (permalink)
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Also: don't be drunk on your bike. Just as bad.
It's stupid but definitely not on the same level unless you're an unnuanced moral absolutist.
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Old 07-25-2018, 09:04 PM   #54159 (permalink)
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If you're drive and you know full well you've been drinking, anything that happens while you are knowingly driving under the influence is in fact your fault. Don't drive like an idiot. Yeah mistakes happen but using drinking as an excuse is worse.
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Old 07-25-2018, 09:14 PM   #54160 (permalink)
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