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Old 05-02-2018, 03:03 PM   #50491 (permalink)
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So will the relatives and family of the suicidal person.
No, they won't. They'll move on with their lives but they won't get over it.
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Old 05-02-2018, 03:06 PM   #50492 (permalink)
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Fully over it.

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Old 05-02-2018, 03:13 PM   #50493 (permalink)
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But the thing is, you'll get over it.
Or maybe they won't. I don't think it's anyone's place to be telling someone who just put away that bottle of aspirin or took a ****ing gun out of their mouth what they're going to feel afterward. That's heavy **** to have to deal with. Maybe twenty years down the line they'll just be wishing they hadn't had to suffer for two more decades.
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Old 05-02-2018, 03:25 PM   #50494 (permalink)
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No, they won't. They'll move on with their lives but they won't get over it.
If someone can get over a medical condition like depression then their acquaintances can get over life events.
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Old 05-02-2018, 03:27 PM   #50495 (permalink)
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If someone can get over a medical condition like depression then their acquaintances can get over life events.
Oh, your point was sarcasm. Never mind.
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Old 05-02-2018, 03:51 PM   #50496 (permalink)
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Except depression is a clinical issue that doesn't just go away. It hides til its ready to strike again randomly.
Yeah I know, if you're clinically depressed, you can't just "happy thoughts" your way out of it.

I'm just saying that, to whatever small degree, it sometimes helps to avoid obsessively negative thoughts. Depends on exactly how and to what extent you're feeling down/prone to feeling down.
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Old 05-02-2018, 03:54 PM   #50497 (permalink)
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Or maybe they won't. I don't think it's anyone's place to be telling someone who just put away that bottle of aspirin or took a ****ing gun out of their mouth what they're going to feel afterward. That's heavy **** to have to deal with. Maybe twenty years down the line they'll just be wishing they hadn't had to suffer for two more decades.
You can either try or you can forego any chance of getting better. If you're in deep enough, your mental illness might make the choice for you. I'm always going to say that if there's any real choice, choose life.
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Old 05-02-2018, 04:01 PM   #50498 (permalink)
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Yeah I know, if you're clinically depressed, you can't just "happy thoughts" your way out of it.

I'm just saying that, to whatever small degree, it sometimes helps to avoid obsessively negative thoughts. Depends on exactly how and to what extent you're feeling down/prone to feeling down.
I can think of one pretty effective method to stop obsessing over negative thoughts.
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Old 05-02-2018, 04:03 PM   #50499 (permalink)
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My condolences Mic. One of my friends told me recently one of our childhood friend hung himself and even though i haven't thought about the guy in years it still broke my heart. Apparently he had to care of his mom which was very demanding and didn't let him have his own life so after a big fight with her he hung himself.

It's always shocking to hear someone you knew and liked died even if you weren't super close with them.
This of course hits very close to home for me, and I can see how someone would be driven to take those sort of desperate and irrevocable measures in that situation, which is similar to mine. However, luckily for me, Karen and I get on great - despite me constantly telling her that she'll never know the time or place when I strike, asking her if she can smell arsenic in her food and smiling, and promising to come down one night with a hammer. She knows it's all in fun (or she thinks it is) and helps get both of us over the sometimes hard fact that has to be faced that we are going to be together until one of us dies.

She has kept her sense of humour, and I mine (what do you mean, when did I get a sense of humour, you weren't told?) so the situation isn't as black as it could be. Caring for a parent has to be harder though: at least Karen and I are basically on the same age level (seven years between us) whereas caring for someone much older must be really hard. My condolences to you on the death of your friend. I'm just glad I always do my best to see the good in everything, even when I want to strangle her. I can't imagine leaving her on her own, so no matter how bad it gets, we get by and I continue not to die. Become something of an expert on it, after almost fifty-five years!
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I can think of one pretty effective method to stop obsessing over negative thoughts.
Yeah, well, you can also fireproof your house by burning it down to black ashes.
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