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Old 03-29-2018, 04:01 PM   #49391 (permalink)
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Assume that a record company hires a mercenary producer who cares not one iota for whether or not a piece of music he creates to be sung over by a hired gun pop star singer who's just in it for the fame and Twitter posts. No one involved in the making of the music considers it art, nor do they care whether or not it fits into the artistic community, but the teenagers who listen to it consider it music.

If it is only considered a product imitating music to all of those involved in the making of the song then is it music?
Everything is music now. I even got up to put on the hat.
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Old 03-29-2018, 04:03 PM   #49392 (permalink)
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Alright, but is such a mercenary enterprise be art if it is only imitating art on a completely superficial level? And if not, can non-art be music?
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Old 03-29-2018, 04:05 PM   #49393 (permalink)
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Old 03-29-2018, 04:09 PM   #49394 (permalink)
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Alright, but is such a mercenary enterprise be art if it is only imitating art on a completely superficial level? And if not, can non-art be music?
Andy Warhol answered this question with paintings decades ago and called it pop art. Idk if there's a music equivalent to pop art though...
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Andy Warhol answered this question with paintings decades ago and called it pop art. Idk if there's a music equivalent to pop art though...
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Andy Warhol answered this question with paintings decades ago and called it pop art. Idk if there's a music equivalent to pop art though...
Well Andy Warhol was actually trying to make an artistic statement. Is Dr. Luke trying to make any statement when he produces a Britney Spears track?



If a song like this only exists to sell then is it art or simply a pale imitation? Is the only reason it qualifies as art that idiots like me worship it as art? Does the intention have any merit on its concept of art or is the interpretation the only thing that matters?
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