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OccultHawk · 01-30-2018, 09:58 PM

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No, I think people just underestimate how ignorant the poor can be. Like, all it takes is sucking at swallowing and a complete lack of knowledge of anything scientific for someone to become sub-anti-vaxxer. This is the same kind of person who had to ask if Germany was a country. These aren't mentally deficient people, just mind numbingly average people with a depressing level of familiarity with anything outside their immediate cultural sphere.

The Insane Clown Posse are not an anomaly. They represent the intelligence of waaaaaaaay more people than any of you want to admit.

I’d wager most Juggalos are smarter than average.

People who are that ignorant never shut up. In public school, if the principal walks in on a teacher’s class and the students are reading or listening to a lecture the principal marks the teacher down because the students are unengaged or it’s not “student centered”. If the kids are sitting in little pods of four cutting up paper into “foldables” and talking about whatever the teacher gets great marks. Or the kids do “think, pair, and share” where they supposedly teach each other (about **** they don’t know). Just examples, but in simpler terms it’s like this: The teacher has about of 50% chance of actually understanding the content that is supposed to be taught and 0% chance of getting the kids to shut the **** up. Since the kids never get shut up the never learn anything so of course they end up not knowing what Germany is. They don’t even know what a country is. You ask them to name a foreign country and they say Miami.

I’ve heard three science teachers deny evolution. I knew a social studies teacher who was a 9/11 “truther”. At lunch, with about six other teachers none of them had heard of Easter Island. They don’t know what carbon is. They don’t understand how the greenhouse effect works. They never heard of Mao Tse Tung. I’m not exaggerating. Teachers.

OccultHawk · 01-30-2018, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I mean, yeah, this woman is certainly on the lower end of the intelligence spectrum than I deal with on average, but not to an extent that she's out of the norm. This is why I don't know why people think that democracy works. This woman has no business casting any vote on how any country of any size should be run, and yet she has a vote in quite possibly the most powerful country on earth, a country that exerts a ridiculous amount of influence on all of the other countries. Why? Who is served? The only thing that people like her voting accomplishes is to prevent smarter people from exploiting her more than they already do.

Bolded is ridiculously optimistic.

~~[MERIT]~~ · 01-31-2018, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

I’d wager most Juggalos are smarter than average.

I'll take that bet.

The Batlord · 01-31-2018, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by OccultHawk

I’d wager most Juggalos are smarter than average.

Having known several this is not my experience. They've come across as being just as capable of not knowing what Germany is.

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People who are that ignorant never shut up. In public school, if the principal walks in on a teacher’s class and the students are reading or listening to a lecture the principal marks the teacher down because the students are unengaged or it’s not “student centered”. If the kids are sitting in little pods of four cutting up paper into “foldables” and talking about whatever the teacher gets great marks. Or the kids do “think, pair, and share” where they supposedly teach each other (about **** they don’t know). Just examples, but in simpler terms it’s like this: The teacher has about of 50% chance of actually understanding the content that is supposed to be taught and 0% chance of getting the kids to shut the **** up. Since the kids never get shut up the never learn anything so of course they end up not knowing what Germany is. They don’t even know what a country is. You ask them to name a foreign country and they say Miami.

I’ve heard three science teachers deny evolution. I knew a social studies teacher who was a 9/11 “truther”. At lunch, with about six other teachers none of them had heard of Easter Island. They don’t know what carbon is. They don’t understand how the greenhouse effect works. They never heard of Mao Tse Tung. I’m not exaggerating. Teachers.

I once had a teacher who thought the leader of all American forces in Vietnam was Lieutenant Calley, the army officer who perpetrated the My Lai Massacre. He was a history teacher. This was a question on a test. He wouldn't even admit to being wrong when I challenged him in front of the entire class. Even if you don't know who Calley is I'd think his Lieutenant rank would give away that he wasn't a general.

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Bolded is ridiculously optimistic.

lol I figured you'd take issue with that. I was at least willing to give idiots that much credit, but of course you're right.

OccultHawk · 01-31-2018, 05:14 AM

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I once had a teacher who thought the leader of all American forces in Vietnam was Lieutenant Calley, the army officer who perpetrated the My Lai Massacre. He was a history teacher. This was a question on a test. He wouldn't even admit to being wrong when I challenged him in front of the entire class. Even if you don't know who Calley is I'd think his Lieutenant rank would give away that he wasn't a general.

Yeah. And that kind of profound lack of content knowledge is disastrous to the profession overall.

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Having known several this is not my experience. They've come across as being just as capable of not knowing what Germany is.

Still probably above average among my former students.

~~MicShazam~~ · 01-31-2018, 05:22 AM

There's been a lot of talk in Denmark about whether our teachers are at a high enough level or whether the public schools are floundering. But even so, you can absolutely expect your math teacher to know math, your history teacher to know history, etc. At least to the required level, but not necessarily past a 9th grade level. The teachers I remember having in my school years were quite competent. Some, even very good at making students take an interest in the material.

I'm pretty sure that the worst of those American teachers could never get a teaching job in Denmark.

grindy · 01-31-2018, 05:29 AM

Just quit my job. Liberating af.

Trollheart · 01-31-2018, 06:15 AM

I'd have to ask then how teachers get their jobs? Are there not any kind of conditions, any exams they have to pass? This is ridiculous; these are the people training the minds of those who may end up running the country at some stage? When I went to hedge school, at least the wizards and monks all knew their stuff. It's disgraceful to say that teachers - surely, in terms of knowledge, the most relied (or expected to be able to be relied) upon other than doctors and lawyers - are so badly trained and so ill-informed. Batty, your story about the Lieutenant is a glaring example, and exactly as you say: even if you don't know the name, how could someone with so low a rank be a supreme commander? It's not like they were like that guy in World War II, Sergeant Montgomery.

rubber soul · 01-31-2018, 06:33 AM

Lt. Calley was a big deal when I was a kid. Assuming this teacher is around my age, it's safe to say he wasn't exactly a fan of Walter Cronkite.

Actually, I think it's a conspiracy to dumb down the public because they can easily be led to keep the ones in power remaining there. Little did they know that might backfire on them one day.

OccultHawk · 01-31-2018, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MicShazam

There's been a lot of talk in Denmark about whether our teachers are at a high enough level or whether the public schools are floundering. But even so, you can absolutely expect your math teacher to know math, your history teacher to know history, etc. At least to the required level, but not necessarily past a 9th grade level. The teachers I remember having in my school years were quite competent. Some, even very good at making students take an interest in the material.

I'm pretty sure that the worst of those American teachers could never get a teaching job in Denmark.

Teachers who are great in Denmark would get eaten alive in America.

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Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	I'd have to ask then how teachers get their jobs? Are there not any kind of conditions, any exams they have to pass? This is ridiculous; these are the people training the minds of those who may end up running the country at some stage? When I went to hedge school, at least the wizards and monks all knew their stuff. It's disgraceful to say that teachers - surely, in terms of knowledge, the most relied (or expected to be able to be relied) upon other than doctors and lawyers - are so badly trained and so ill-informed. Batty, your story about the Lieutenant is a glaring example, and exactly as you say: even if you don't know the name, how could someone with so low a rank be a supreme commander? It's not like they were like that guy in World War II, Sergeant Montgomery. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

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~~MicShazam~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Aalborg Posts: 7,634	There's been a lot of talk in Denmark about whether our teachers are at a high enough level or whether the public schools are floundering. But even so, you can absolutely expect your math teacher to know math, your history teacher to know history, etc. At least to the required level, but not necessarily past a 9th grade level. The teachers I remember having in my school years were quite competent. Some, even very good at making students take an interest in the material. I'm pretty sure that the worst of those American teachers could never get a teaching job in Denmark.