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The Batlord · 01-26-2018, 04:21 PM

@Frownland (cause I'm honestly interested in how our approaches to action scenes differ)

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I guess we just have irreconcilable differences then. There's a magic to a properly choreographed action scene (of any sort) that connects on a primal level. There's a sort of rhythm that's much like a well-executed metal or hardcore song that just drags you along and "hits" at the right spots in the right manner to feel like a dance or something. Kind of hard to explain just like how a Slayer song is hard to explain in how the inertia and violence connects with you.

grindy · 01-26-2018, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

How does BOT4J do that? The scenes where the veterans are jumping every time the fireworks go off in the parade? The protests by the vets against the war? Cruise's mother refusing to believe he shot babies? How does that lionize troops? How is that anything but anti-war?

They might grab you and make you one of them....

Once again Chula crosses the line. SPNL.

Shipping Professional Network in London? Society for the Protection of Nature in Lebanon? Scanning probe nanolithography?

**Frownland** · 01-26-2018, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I guess we just have irreconcilable differences then. There's a magic to a properly choreographed action scene (of any sort) that connects on a primal level. There's a sort of rhythm that's much like a well-executed metal or hardcore song that just drags you along and "hits" at the right spots in the right manner to feel like a dance or something. Kind of hard to explain just like how a Slayer song is hard to explain in how the inertia and violence connects with you.

I don't disagree but a great action scene is not enough for me to get behind a bad movie like Saving Private Ryan.

Trollheart · 01-26-2018, 04:25 PM

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Shipping Professional Network in London? Society for the Protection of Nature in Lebanon? Scanning probe nanolithography?

Some People Never Learn.

Chula Vista · 01-26-2018, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

a bad movie like Saving Private Ryan.

You are beyond hopeless. Go put a bullet into your brain.

The Batlord · 01-26-2018, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

How does BOT4J do that? The scenes where the veterans are jumping every time the fireworks go off in the parade? The protests by the vets against the war? Cruise's mother refusing to believe he shot babies? How does that lionize troops? How is that anything but anti-war?

I don't know what movie you're talking about so I can't say, but in general those movies, even the anti-war ones, often carry water for soldiers so that anti-war messages become pro-veteran messages, which encourage you to "support the troops", which puts it into your brain that you should support their wars as well. Not all war movies are like that obviously, and generally the ones that aren't are the more controversial, but in general if a war movie has a battle scene that can be described as "cool" then you should probably be leery of its intentions, even if the intended intentions aren't jingoistic.

**Frownland** · 01-26-2018, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

You are beyond hopeless. Go put a bullet into your brain.

Chula, I already know that you like all popular media. You can keep it to yourself now.

grindy · 01-26-2018, 04:29 PM

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Some People Never Learn.

That's some gratuitous abbreviating.

Chula Vista · 01-26-2018, 04:30 PM

Good is good.

We also know that you dislike anything that's popular. It's your only edge.

The Batlord · 01-26-2018, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I don't disagree but a great action scene is not enough for me to get behind a bad movie like Saving Private Ryan.

Do you think Saving Private Ryan could have been saved if it had cut out a lot of the character building moments or the contrived scenes meant to convey the horrors of war (like the dog tag/poker chip scene)? I think a lot of Dunkirk's charm is that it didn't have that much in the way of character building and so the soldiers were allowed to be just random people in uniforms getting shot at, which is a lot less contrived than a movie that spends ten minutes in a church talking about random bull**** that just makes the movie drag on.

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