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**Frownland** · 12-12-2017, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

oh I don't think high quality production is inherently bad

but the type of production that serves to make music more professional usually is

like Martin Hannet's is a bit of an outlier as he's an evil genius himself and the goal was to make something different not you know touch up rough groups

Do you have an example of a good album that's marred by a less rough production approach or is this just a truism?

Chula Vista · 12-12-2017, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Nope. Back then band's paid for it on their own dime.

Fun trivia fact. The Beatles first album is the only one estimated to have a higher return on investment than LZ1.

Beatles1: Cost $1,500 - 1,000,000 units sold. (1964 dollars)

LZ1: Cost $2,372 - 8,000,000 units sold. (1969 dollars)

Lucem Ferre · 12-12-2017, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

people can certainly make a job out of it

careerism is disgusting in Art

So you're arguing just for the sake of arguing, my point still stands.

And careerism isn't what's disgusting, it's rules that are disgusting. You try to put just as many bars on art as anybody else.

Chula Vista · 12-12-2017, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

how many lower class artists had 1.5k in 1964 dollars sitting around

They had already been well established and George Martin had connections.

Apples to Grapes.

**Frownland** · 12-12-2017, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Chula Vista

Fun trivia fact. The Beatles first album is the only one estimated to have a higher return on investment than LZ1.

Beatles1: Cost $1,500 - 1,000,000 units sold. (1964 dollars)

LZ1: Cost $2,372 - 8,000,000 units sold. (1969 dollars)

Eagles' Greatest Hits cost zero dollars to record and is one of the highest grossing records of all time!

Chula Vista · 12-12-2017, 01:40 PM

I love awesome production on a song like this:

Rough production works great on a song like this:

Lucem Ferre · 12-12-2017, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by elphenor

your "point" is kinda nonsense on multiple levels

there's even huge mainstream artists that were never that talented but had a marketable personality

Who?

**Frownland** · 12-12-2017, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

Who?

I hope he says Kanye so that we can laugh at him for being an old man.

Chula Vista · 12-12-2017, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Eagles' Greatest Hits cost zero dollars to record.

*groan*

Lucem Ferre · 12-12-2017, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

I hope he says Kanye.

Then he'd be wrong. Kanye blew up before anybody knew his personality and already had a lucrative career as a producer prior. He's very talented. In fact, his fame is usually despite his personality.

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