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Old 01-18-2017, 12:09 PM   #42511 (permalink)
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We can derive that we are tiny in comparison to the cosmos. An Unfathomable level of tiny. And we are around for an equally Unfathomable small amount of time.

From one perspective this must mean we are insignificant. But science does not tell us that we apply a human perspective of significance to the situation.

The Eastern way of looking at things would not understand such a perspective because they do not see humans as separate from the universe itself indeed from their perspective we are the universe experiencing itself
But... science doesn't tell us we're separate from the universe. Quite the opposite, since being separate is more of a Western religious concept.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 01-18-2017, 12:11 PM   #42512 (permalink)
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To give an example

We can derive that we are tiny in comparison to the cosmos. An Unfathomable level of tiny. And we are around for an equally Unfathomable small amount of time.

From one perspective this must mean we are insignificant. But science does not tell us that we apply a human perspective of significance to the situation.

The Eastern way of looking at things would not understand such a perspective because they do not see humans as separate from the universe itself indeed from their perspective we are the universe experiencing itself
So it makes claims about a perspective that it can not possibly demonstrate.

I'm not knocking it, if that makes your life more meaningful then by all means, but I don't have a problem being insignificant. I don't think science sees us as separate from the universe, you hear stuff about how we share the same molecules that were once part of stars or the ocean or whatever, and that to me is amazing and spiritual (for lack of a better term).
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Old 01-18-2017, 12:17 PM   #42513 (permalink)
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In that case, sounds like Neil SmokeDeGrasse Tyson has been sipping from the glass of Eastern spirituality between shifts as well.

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Old 01-18-2017, 12:25 PM   #42514 (permalink)
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Don't get me wrong, I don't bother that much with Buddhism and such, but I do have some respect for it since it doesn't require you to accept dogma and seems more about common sense philosophy than trying to contort morality to fit dogma.
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Old 01-18-2017, 12:27 PM   #42515 (permalink)
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One of the great poetic ways of putting things is to say that the sun shining is as much an involuntary action of the self as moving blood through your veins
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There is also wisdom to be found in Everybody Poops.
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Old 01-18-2017, 12:50 PM   #42517 (permalink)
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Sounds good.
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Taoism has teachings like punk rock to me or what I think the essence of punk is imo

Basically: find your own path, do things your own way naturally
It can not be contrived or forced
Sounds like Frank Sinatra.
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Sounds like Frank Sinatra.
Is this really a "My Way" joke? smh
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