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Carpe Mortem 05-03-2014 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1446336)
Since they're abiding by state law and not federal law, the dispensaries are VERY careful about how they operate their business for fear of being raided, so they're very likely to be meticulous about the paperwork. They may operate differently in Florida but that's how it is in Cali.

In Michigan, its professional, but I've been told pretty casual. You obviously need to be legal, but for instance.... it is highly illegal to have both a gun permit and a caregiver's permit. I have friends who have both because the big guys don't cross reference the paperwork.

RoxyRollah 05-03-2014 01:23 PM

I wil report back my findings after I get an RX!

gunnels 05-03-2014 06:10 PM

I'm going to put this under a cut because it has some triggers.
Spoiler for Suicide mention and drugs:

So yesterday somebody I am acquainted with online tried to commit suicide. I didn't know about this until he had already taken 2400 mg of an antipsychotic.

I want to be a therapist, and suicide prevention is a large part of that. I realize that I'm just an undergrad in his second year, but I've had enough training in this area that I should be able to effectively respond to something like this. Instead, I was hyperventilating while desperately looking through my basic QPR pamphlet, then physically shaking while on the phone asking the suicide hotline what I should do.

I won't go into the details of the conversation between me and him, but I feel like I completely failed to respond adequately to his needs. Fortunately, he made himself vomit and drank a ton of water, and he's ok today. None of that was from me, though. I feel like I was too indirect, too afraid of how he might respond. Furthermore the amount of anxiety and uncertainty I felt during this was surprising; it made me think that I may not be cut out for this type of work.

And even now, I'm focusing more on how I'm feeling rather than how he is at the moment. I'm too preoccupied with the unpleasant things I learned about myself to be attentive to his needs, and I am ashamed of that.


Psychedub Dude 05-03-2014 06:33 PM

Awesome day going on vacation from work again gonna looks for a better job while in off. It's a very peaceful feeling knowing I won't have to be back there till next Sunday

hate paper doll 05-03-2014 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by gunnels (Post 1446449)
I'm going to put this under a cut because it has some triggers.
Spoiler for Suicide mention and drugs:

So yesterday somebody I am acquainted with online tried to commit suicide. I didn't know about this until he had already taken 2400 mg of an antipsychotic.

I want to be a therapist, and suicide prevention is a large part of that. I realize that I'm just an undergrad in his second year, but I've had enough training in this area that I should be able to effectively respond to something like this. Instead, I was hyperventilating while desperately looking through my basic QPR pamphlet, then physically shaking while on the phone asking the suicide hotline what I should do.

I won't go into the details of the conversation between me and him, but I feel like I completely failed to respond adequately to his needs. Fortunately, he made himself vomit and drank a ton of water, and he's ok today. None of that was from me, though. I feel like I was too indirect, too afraid of how he might respond. Furthermore the amount of anxiety and uncertainty I felt during this was surprising; it made me think that I may not be cut out for this type of work.

And even now, I'm focusing more on how I'm feeling rather than how he is at the moment. I'm too preoccupied with the unpleasant things I learned about myself to be attentive to his needs, and I am ashamed of that.


If you ask me, the fact that you cared enough to do ANYTHING is admirable. I hope you don't let this make you doubt yourself or your studies. We all have to start somewhere, and now you can learn from the experience and use it as you move forward.

RoxyRollah 05-03-2014 07:00 PM

Spoiler for I just don't know what happened just now:
Quote:

Originally Posted by gunnels (Post 1446449)
I'm going to put this under a cut because it has some triggers.
Spoiler for Suicide mention and drugs:

So yesterday somebody I am acquainted with online tried to commit suicide. I didn't know about this until he had already taken 2400 mg of an antipsychotic.

I want to be a therapist, and suicide prevention is a large part of that. I realize that I'm just an undergrad in his second year, but I've had enough training in this area that I should be able to effectively respond to something like this. Instead, I was hyperventilating while desperately looking through my basic QPR pamphlet, then physically shaking while on the phone asking the suicide hotline what I should do.

I won't go into the details of the conversation between me and him, but I feel like I completely failed to respond adequately to his needs. Fortunately, he made himself vomit and drank a ton of water, and he's ok today. None of that was from me, though. I feel like I was too indirect, too afraid of how he might respond. Furthermore the amount of anxiety and uncertainty I felt during this was surprising; it made me think that I may not be cut out for this type of work.

And even now, I'm focusing more on how I'm feeling rather than how he is at the moment. I'm too preoccupied with the unpleasant things I learned about myself to be attentive to his needs, and I am ashamed of that.

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Originally Posted by gunnels (Post 1446449)

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Ok sweetie,

You are young, and I don't put that out there as an insult, rather to point out that, when things like that happen to someone for the first time, they often times don't know how to react. Panic is very very normal in times of extreme stress I am looking at your post and I can honestly say from an objective stand point doll you did absolutely nothing wrong. I fail to see what unpleasant thing you learned about yourself, you cared enough to talk to your friend, call the appropriate people, and if the kid swallowed a hand full of anti-psychotics, you just never know how someone will react, to the things you are saying. ( I can attest to this personally as I took 3 shots of halidol in the hospital at a low point in my life and all I kept screaming was NO POLICE! Wasn't a damn cop in sight ok!)

Now do you think those doctors, and nurses that were within arms reach of me and had 25+ years of medical experience didn't treat me like a rabid animal and look at me in horror and panic while I was throwing **** that was within my reach? ABSO****INLOUTELY they did.

I think you are beating yourself up waaaay to ****in hard darling. Now that you have dealt with this situation, if something like this happens to you again in your life time, that panic feeling that you felt will mostly likely be replaced with calm. Humans are resilient brother, and when they are exposed to something once and learn from it, and grow from it the next time this situation or something dire like that happens again, the reaction becomes natural. In all actuality the way I would suggest you look it is for being as young as you are, unseasoned as you are in the mental health field, you got your cherry popped long before you ever go into practice for yourself. I think you passed with flying colors doll. ;)

If you ever need anything you know where my pm is.

gunnels 05-03-2014 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by hate paper doll (Post 1446454)
If you ask me, the fact that you cared enough to do ANYTHING is admirable. I hope you don't let this make you doubt yourself or your studies. We all have to start somewhere, and now you can learn from the experience and use it as you move forward.

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1446455)
[SPOILER="I just don't know what happened just now"]

Spoiler for hidden response for hidden post:
Ok sweetie,

You are young, and I don't put that out there as an insult, rather to point out that, when things like that happen to someone for the first time, they often times don't know how to react. Panic is very very normal in times of extreme stress I am looking at your post and I can honestly say from an objective stand point doll you did absolutely nothing wrong. I fail to see what unpleasant thing you learned about yourself, you cared enough to talk to your friend, call the appropriate people, and if the kid swallowed a hand full of anti-psychotics, you just never know how someone will react, to the things you are saying. ( I can attest to this personally as I took 3 shots of halidol in the hospital at a low point in my life and all I kept screaming was NO POLICE! Wasn't a damn cop in sight ok!)

Now do you think those doctors, and nurses that were within arms reach of me and had 25+ years of medical experience didn't treat me like a rabid animal and look at me in horror and panic while I was throwing **** that was within my reach? ABSO****INLOUTELY they did.

I think you are beating yourself up waaaay to ****in hard darling. Now that you have dealt with this situation, if something like this happens to you again in your life time, that panic feeling that you felt will mostly likely be replaced with calm. Humans are resilient brother, and when they are exposed to something once and learn from it, and grow from it the next time this situation or something dire like that happens again, the reaction becomes natural. In all actuality the way I would suggest you look it is for being as young as you are, unseasoned as you are in the mental health field, you got your cherry popped long before you ever go into practice for yourself. I think you passed with flying colors doll. ;)

If you ever need anything you know where my pm is.

Thank you both for your kind words. This kind of self-evaluation probably stemmed from the fact that I've been picturing myself working in this field for almost eight years now, and most kids don't daydream about panicking and inexperience. Guess it's a good thing I've gotten my sophomoric romanticism tempered early.
And Roxy, I greatly appreciate your willingness to share something like that with me. That kind of lived-experience feedback is exactly what I needed I think. It helped put things into perspective quite a bit. Now that I think about it, I did learn quite a bit from it; I've read and written about these kinds of procedures before but that's no substitute for actually carrying them out. Thanks for helping me see that.

RoxyRollah 05-03-2014 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by gunnels (Post 1446487)
Thank you both for your kind words. This kind of self-evaluation probably stemmed from the fact that I've been picturing myself working in this field for almost eight years now, and most kids don't daydream about panicking and inexperience. Guess it's a good thing I've gotten my sophomoric romanticism tempered early.
And Roxy, I greatly appreciate your willingness to share something like that with me. That kind of lived-experience feedback is exactly what I needed I think. It helped put things into perspective quite a bit. Now that I think about it, I did learn quite a bit from it; I've read and written about these kinds of procedures before but that's no substitute for actually carrying them out. Thanks for helping me see that.

;) Anytime Doll!

ladyislingering 05-03-2014 11:26 PM

Today was complete and utter bull**** all around.

Frownland 05-03-2014 11:27 PM

Recorded three tracks today, two of which I'll probably be using for a solo album. So all in all a good day.


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