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butthead aka 216 12-03-2013 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyislingering (Post 1391217)
I don't believe in mistreating people. Abuse to any life form is despicable. However, I feel worse for animals (and children) because they can't defend themselves. People who hurt children, other people, and animals should be executed. I'm sorry - oh, wait, no I'm not - but abusers need to be put down.

more absurdity from you especially if you consider killin animals for food in that category. which it seems like you would.

this forum in general i think has collective social issues lol

FRED HALE SR. 12-03-2013 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by butthead aka 216 (Post 1391456)
more absurdity from you especially if you consider killin animals for food in that category. which it seems like you would.

this forum in general i think has collective social issues lol

:laughing: Sure did take you a long time to figure that out. :laughing:

ladyislingering 12-03-2013 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by butthead aka 216 (Post 1391456)
more absurdity from you especially if you consider killin animals for food in that category. which it seems like you would.

this forum in general i think has collective social issues lol

I don't believe in a human need to kill animals.

I think humans are pretty well evolved, and we don't need to go to those extremes anymore. Furthermore, the only reason a lot of people justify killing animals "for food, CUZ I GOTTA EAT, HURRRR" is because they're specifically bred out of proportion for the sake of "food" alone. In a natural habitat, we wouldn't have giant cows on steroids popping out a ton of babies all the time, and those babies being forced to breed.

It just seems really barbaric and horrible to put innocent creatures into these environments; when people are kidnapped against their will and held in basements/enclosed spaces, threatened, beaten, mistreated, it's a serious crime. (As it should be - how sick it is that people who do this to other people are even allowed to live) They're rescued and shuffled off to rehabilitation. But when it's done to animals it's "normal".

I could go on for the rest of my life talking about this but I'll spare you.

butthead aka 216 12-03-2013 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyislingering (Post 1391461)
I don't believe in a human need to kill animals.

I think humans are pretty well evolved, and we don't need to go to those extremes anymore. Furthermore, the only reason a lot of people justify killing animals "for food, CUZ I GOTTA EAT, HURRRR" is because they're specifically bred out of proportion for the sake of "food" alone. In a natural habitat, we wouldn't have giant cows on steroids popping out a ton of babies all the time, and those babies being forced to breed.

It just seems really barbaric and horrible to put innocent creatures into these environments; when people are kidnapped against their will and held in basements/enclosed spaces, threatened, beaten, mistreated, it's a serious crime. (As it should be - how sick it is that people who do this to other people are even allowed to live) They're rescued and shuffled off to rehabilitation. But when it's done to animals it's "normal".

I could go on for the rest of my life talking about this but I'll spare you.

just a matter of where ya wanna draw the line. do we kill mosquitos and ants?? are they less than animals like deer? we prob dont need to but i mean meat is healthy and tastes great. and yes the world is barbaric just look at the animal kingdom if ya wanna see barbaric. theres a food chain and we are at the top, life isnt butterflies and rainbows

ladyislingering 12-03-2013 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by butthead aka 216 (Post 1391466)
just a matter of where ya wanna draw the line. do we kill mosquitos and ants?? are they less than animals like deer? we prob dont need to but i mean meat is healthy and tastes great. and yes the world is barbaric just look at the animal kingdom if ya wanna see barbaric. theres a food chain and we are at the top, life isnt butterflies and rainbows

But the difference there is that humans can walk into grocery stores and make an active decision to eat things other than carcasses filled with antibiotics, preservatives, steroids, etc. Animals in the wild scavenge for whatever they can get because they don't have the same option. They wouldn't know what to do with it because they haven't been raised to adapt in the way humans have.

I usually don't tell people I'm a vegetarian (unless they offer me something full of animals and still push after I say no) because of the ignorant ways they respond ("where do you get your protein?", "how are you still alive?", "PETA stands for 'people eating tasty animals' hurrrrrr hurrrr hurr I'm so funny hurrr"). It doesn't offend me; I just have a seriously low tolerance for people acting stupid. (Especially when they sit there and gnaw on whatever they're eating, make eye contact with me and make obnoxious sounds - what the hell are you trying to prove? That you act stupid for no reason??)

I don't judge people for their food choices, but I do like when they learn new ways to cut down on their animal consumption (but only if they want to/enjoy it). Meat is poison, but saying so isn't going to stop people from their habit.

djchameleon 12-03-2013 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyislingering (Post 1391436)
I've never had a problem like that. Female cats tend to be more talkative for whatever reason, but if you get them spayed they shouldn't make any awful howling noises. If you interact with them enough in the daytime, they'll sleep at night. I've never been bothered by a cat at any hour that wasn't at least sort of reasonable. (I used to sleep in a lot of the time when I was younger - my cat would toss things off the dresser to wake me up, but it was like 2 o'clock in the afternoon...)

Well , I have a male kitty that is super talkative and he also decides to go running at 2 or 3 am with his mother. So, you have just been lucky. I've heard stories of other people that have had to deal with that as well.

Man reason this pic is a thing.
http://meme-lol.com/wp-content/uploa...tches-MEME.jpg

It happens more often than it doesn't.


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Originally Posted by ladyislingering (Post 1391436)
I like anything that can't talk.

So you don't like yourself or Ki then?

ladyislingering 12-03-2013 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1391484)
Well , I have a male kitty that is super talkative and he also decides to go running at 2 or 3 am with his mother. So, you have just been lucky. I've heard stories of other people that have had to deal with that as well.

Man reason this pic is a thing.
http://meme-lol.com/wp-content/uploa...tches-MEME.jpg

It happens more often than it doesn't.




So you don't like yourself or Ki then?

Is your cat young? The behavior might lessen a little as he grows. :)

I never said I don't like things that talk (though I'm usually annoyed by things that talk too much). But I like things that can't, just the same.

djchameleon 12-03-2013 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyislingering (Post 1391485)
Is your cat young? The behavior might lessen a little as he grows. :)

Yeah, he is going on 2 years old.

I don't remember my female kitty being like that when she was younger though.

ladyislingering 12-03-2013 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1391487)
Yeah, he is going on 2 years old.

I don't remember my female kitty being like that when she was younger though.

Awwwww, he's just a little baby. :love:

Maybe she's just kind of shy. I've always read that female cats tend to talk more, but I think animals are just as hard to generalize as people are. I love when kitties mew, though. I don't even mind if they mew too much, and sometimes I mew back (but then I get sort of worried that I mewed and offended them somehow - not sure if that's a little schizophrenic or a legitimate concern). :)

djchameleon 12-03-2013 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyislingering (Post 1391490)

Maybe she's just kind of shy. I've always read that female cats tend to talk more, but I think animals are just as hard to generalize as people are. I love when kitties mew, though. I don't even mind if they mew too much, and sometimes I mew back (but then I get sort of worried that I mewed and offended them somehow - not sure if that's a little schizophrenic or a legitimate concern). :)

The rampant meowing bothers me so much. I much rather hear a crying baby than the meow.

I do meow back or just talk to him normally and we have little conversations but when I just walk past him and he meows it just grates on my nerves.

Also when humans meow back to a cat it is pretty much just jumbled words/sounds. I highly doubt we are saying anything similar to what they are saying when we repeat their meow sound.


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