I know I brought this up before but it's kind of funny how much you appreciate animals when they are basically mentally stunted children. Their little brains don't develop past that of a 2 year old in cats and a 7 year old in dogs.

It is kind of sickening how badly you get punished in public opinion for mistreating animals but if you mistreat people zero fucks are given.

I don't think animals should be mistreated but I think the value that people place on animals over humans is just strange and shows a lack of empathy.

Double physics drunk was great.

Because they're you think of them as your children yet for the most part they don't have a lot of the negative aspects of children.

A person can stick up for themselves and understand what's actually going on. A dog that gets kicked doesn't understand. And if you kick your dog you're betraying what is basically an unconditional trust that that dog has placed in you when they have no real recourse except to attack you, after which they will get put to sleep.

The negative aspects related to children will grow out of them in a couple of years but you still have the same aspects with pets that will last so much longer than that with their bad behavior.


That isn't enough to justify placing a higher value on animals over humans imo.

Not necessarily. My dog used to chew up half the house. Now she's stopped. Animals grow out of plenty of annoying habits. They just generally don't grow into the sheer amount of new bad ones as people do. No matter how old my dogs or cats got they never put my mother through the kind of **** that I did growing up (and still do to some extent).


I really don't care about justifying it. I like being around animals more than humans so I value their company more than humans. Simple as that.

And yet I'd definitely rather have a cat than a child. At least the cat will (for the most part) take care of its own poop, and won't make any unpleasant noises or cost me too much money. Cats are just great, man. They do their own little thing, and they'll come to you for attention if they want it. They'll even sleep at the foot of your bed and not wake you up for anything (unless they're super hungry and they've already eaten all their food - at least they can make an effort to take care of their needs without your assistance).

I don't believe in mistreating people. Abuse to any life form is despicable. However, I feel worse for animals (and children) because they can't defend themselves. People who hurt children, other people, and animals should be executed. I'm sorry - oh, wait, no I'm not - but abusers need to be put down.

This, though.

I've never once looked at an animal and thought "I wish you'd shut the hell up" or "god, you're an ass" or any other negative emotion I feel toward most unpleasant humans I meet.

I totally agree, animals and children should be protected. It's hard to figure how abuses either because animal's can't talk and children can be threatened/bullied into silence.

Animals make me far happier than people.

cats make unpleasant noises when they constantly meow and walk up at 2 in the morning for their nightly work out and wake me up. Might as well be a baby. I do agree with costing less money though.

I don't agree with that but this isn't the thread to get into a death penalty debate.



You just like animals because they can't talk. If they could talk I'm pretty sure they would say some unpleasant things that you don't like lol

You also believe people who drink drive should be executed. But would you be willing to do the executing? It's easy to say stuff, far more difficult to put it into action and live with the consequences. Could you sleep at night having robbed a parent of it's child, a child of it's parent?

I've never had a problem like that. Female cats tend to be more talkative for whatever reason, but if you get them spayed they shouldn't make any awful howling noises. If you interact with them enough in the daytime, they'll sleep at night. I've never been bothered by a cat at any hour that wasn't at least sort of reasonable. (I used to sleep in a lot of the time when I was younger - my cat would toss things off the dresser to wake me up, but it was like 2 o'clock in the afternoon...)

I like anything that can't talk. Animals communicate differently. And they're beautiful. Sometimes they do get a little upset (usually if they're getting into things they shouldn't, or misbehaving - and you remove them from the situation) but for the most part, animals are good. They're kind-hearted. They love their parents (and yes, I consider myself a parent to any creature in my care - who wouldn't?).

Only if they kill someone. Better to take care of the problem before it can happen again, you know? I used to be more compassionate in that sense, but some people should just be removed from humanity - or just used for science. But that's a whole different debate that I'm just too tired for.

I never said I'd kill anyone personally. Too much effort, and not an image I need in my mind for the rest of my life. But I have zero compassion for people who hurt other people and animals.