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Old 08-31-2015, 11:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I am wondering what peoples opinions are with respect to the UFO phenomenon?

I suppose I will also start this discussion with the following:

In the spring of 2013, 40 witnesses from around the world including Apollo 14 Astronaut Edgar Mitchell, former Canadian Defense Minister Paul Hellyer along with military personnel, intelligence personnel, defense contractors, government officials, physicists, historians, lawyers and researchers who testified before former members of the Senate and House about the reality of the UFO phenomenon.

Here is a short clip about the "Citizen Hearing On Disclosure."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paFhgWqb100

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Old 09-01-2015, 02:57 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Why has there never been a piece of hard (ie. not anecdotal) evidence?
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Old 09-01-2015, 01:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Why has there never been a piece of hard (ie. not anecdotal) evidence?
In a day where literally everything is recorded by somebody, the fact that there is not a lot of hard evidence, especially recently, is proof enough for me that 99% of all UFO sightings are bullsh*t.

The only real freaky event that left me with no answers was the Pheonix Lights incident in the 90s.

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The only real freaky event that left me with no answers was the Pheonix Lights incident in the 90s.

Totally explained. I got to see that live during the short time we lived in Temp, AZ.

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Within days, Tucson Weekly broke the news that the Maryland Air National Guard, in Arizona for winter training, had a squad of A-10 fighters over the gunnery range that night, and they had dropped flares. An Arizona National Guard public information officer, Captain Eileen Bienz, had determined that the flares had been dropped at 10 p.m. over the North Tac range 30 miles southwest of Phoenix, at an unusually high altitude: 15,000 feet.

The "disappearance" was actually the lights dropping behind the Sierra Estrella mountain range. Channel 12 filmed a similar dropping of flares by military planes, which Ortega reported as looking "remarkably like the 10 p.m. lights of March 13." - Phoenix New Times.
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Totally explained. I got to see that live during the short time we lived in Temp, AZ.
Well that's that.
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Well that's that.
As soon as the sun came up the next day and you could see the outline of the range and then picture the order in which the lights went out it was clear.
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Well that's that.
No its not.
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Totally explained. I got to see that live during the short time we lived in Temp, AZ.
Anybody who has spent a tiny amount of time investigating this case is well aware that there were flares in the sky that night. Look deeper into the case, you will see that the flares were an entirely separate event.

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Symington also noted that he requested information from the commander of Luke Air Force Base, the general of the National Guard, and the head of the Arizona Department of Public Safety. But none of the officials he contacted had an answer for what had happened, and were also perplexed. Later, he responded to an Air Force explanation that the lights were flares: "As a pilot and a former Air Force Officer, I can definitively say that this craft did not resemble any man made object I'd ever seen. And it was certainly not high-altitude flares because flares don't fly in formation". In an episode of the television show UFO Hunters called "The Arizona Lights", Symington said that he contacted the military asking what the lights were. The response was "no comment". He pointed out that he was the governor of Arizona at the time, not just some ordinary civilian.

Frances Barwood, the 1997 Phoenix city councilwoman who launched an investigation into the event, said that of the over 700 witnesses she interviewed, "The government never interviewed even one".-Wikipedia/Phoenix Lights
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In a day where literally everything is recorded by somebody, the fact that there is not a lot of hard evidence, especially recently, is proof enough for me that 99% of all UFO sightings are bullsh*t.
I agree, the vast majority of UFO events are mistaken identity, or hoaxes etc. It is the few cases that are truly strange and have a good amount of evidence that need to be taken seriously.

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The only real freaky event that left me with no answers was the Pheonix Lights incident in the 90s.
Yes the Phoenix Lights case is interesting. Especially when you have the Governor of the state telling you about the reality of the event. Here is Governor Fife Symington in his own words:



Also with regards to newer cases, this case has come to be very interesting indeed. The incident also has video from the Department of Homeland Security. The Scientific Coalition for Ufology came out with a 162 pg. analysis of the event and it is very technical. All information with the applicable links are included in this article.

-Leaked UFO video captured by Homeland Security analyzed

Here is the video:

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Yes the Phoenix Lights case is interesting. Especially when you have the Governor of the state telling you about the reality of the event. Here is Governor Fife Symington in his own words:
Except that the Phoenix Lights have been reasonably well refuted in this very thread.

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Also with regards to newer cases, this case has come to be very interesting indeed. The incident also has video from the Department of Homeland Security.
Oh ffs, that's not evidence.

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came out with a 162 pg. analysis of the event and it is very technical.
That doesn't make it scientifically valid.
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