UFO Disclosure

JonMJ33 · 09-05-2015, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds

What makes you think it's something extra-terrestrial, as opposed to, say, the Russians?

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Originally Posted by Pet_Sounds

What makes you think it's something extra-terrestrial, as opposed to, say, the Russians?

I do personally believe that there are human groups that have this technology as well as ET groups.

One big reason why I feel that this is an ET phenomenon is because the phenomenon started before any government on the planet even began becoming a technologically sophisticated super power.

The French COMETA report which is a 90 pg. report done by several high ranking generals and military officials as well as scientists that were apart of the French space program equivalent to NASA, came to the conclusion that the best hypothesis for the UFO phenomenon was the extra-terrestrial hypothesis.

Another reason I feel that this is ET related is that the declassified documents related to the phenomenon don't mention anything about the Russians, Germans or any other country. Nor does there seem to be any evidence specifically pointing to the Russians or any other government.

The Batlord · 09-05-2015, 06:10 PM

The French have a space program? Why?

JonMJ33 · 09-07-2015, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

The French have a space program?

Yes. It is called CNES.

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The Centre national d'études spatiales (CNES) (English: National Centre for Space Studies) is the French government space agency (administratively, a "public administration with industrial and commercial purpose"). Its headquarters are located in central Paris and it is under the supervision of the French Ministries of Defence and Research.]-Wikipedia/CNES

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Why?

I suspect for similar reasons as other countries.

The Batlord · 09-07-2015, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by JonMJ33

Yes. It is called CNES.

I suspect for similar reasons as other countries.

So they don't feel inferior to the US and Russia for having been the only two countries with space programs that matter?

JonMJ33 · 09-07-2015, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

So they don't feel inferior to the US and Russia for having been the only two countries with space programs that matter?

I have no idea how they feel.

China's and India's space programs are up and coming.

China has landed a rover on the Moon already, and India has satellites around both the Moon and Mars and both countries are planning a lot more in the future. Including manned missions into space.

The Batlord · 09-07-2015, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JonMJ33

I have no idea how they feel.

China's and India's space programs are up and coming.

China has landed a rover on the Moon already, and India has satellites around both the Moon and Mars and both countries are planning a lot more in the future. Including manned missions into space.

It's nice that those two countries are doing things, but I still fail to see why France even bothers.

JonMJ33 · 09-15-2015, 07:40 PM

Here is an account of the beginning of the "Belgium Wave" as written by Major General Wilfried De Brouwer (ret.) of the Belgium Air Force.

On a side note, the explanation given by skeptics was Venus.

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Two federal policeman, Heinrich Nicoll and Hubert Von Montigny, made the most important report. At 5:15 p.m., while patrolling on the road between Eupen and the German border, they saw a nearby field lit with such intensity that they could read the newspaper in their car. Hovering above the field was a triangle craft with three spotlights beaming down and a red flashing light at the center. Without making a sound , it moved slowly toward the German border for about two minutes and then suddenly turned back toward the city of Eupen. The policemen followed. Other independent witnesses reported that they saw the strange object along the same road. It remained over the town of Eupen for approximately thirty minutes and was seen by numerous additional witnesses. The object then proceeded to Lake Gileppe, where it remained immobile, hovering for approximately one hour, while Nicoll and Von Montigny sat in their car on a nearby hill and witnessed an extraordinary spectacle. The craft repeatedly emitted two red light beams with a red ball at the spearhead of both beams, in the horizontal plane. Subsequently, the beams disappeared and the red balls returned to the vehicle. A few minutes later, another cycle started, each cycle lasting several minutes. Hubert Von Montigny said it was like a diver shooting an arrow from an underwater gun that slows down at the end of its trajectory and is subsequently retrieved by the diver.
But there was more to come. Suddenly, at 6:45 p.m. the policemen saw a second craft, which appeared from behind the woods and made a forward tilting maneuver, exposing the upper side of the fuselage. They described a dome on the upper structure with rectangular windows, lit on the inside. It then departed to the north. About forty minutes later, at 7:23 p.m., the first craft stopped emitting the red light balls and departed to the southwest. The two policemen, who were in radio contact with their dispatch, learned that another UAP (unidentified aerial phenomenon) had been reported in the north of Eupen, and they drove to an observation point, south of the highway E 40. From that position, they saw the UAP moving to the village of Henri-Chapelle, where two of their police colleagues, Dieter Plumanns and Peter Nicoll (no relation to Heinrich Nicoll), saw the craft approaching from the direction of Eupen.-UFO's Generals, Pilots, And Government Officials Go On The Record/Leslie Kean

JonMJ33 · 10-01-2015, 05:11 AM

Have you ever heard of the 1976 UFO over TEHRAN incident?

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One of the best documented UFO-aircraft incidents, when a UFO was observed flying over the restricted airspace of Tehran, Iran. Two U.S.-made F-4 Phantom II jet fighters of the Imperial Iranian Air Force were scrambled, but as the pilots closed in on the target, their communications and weapons systems were suddenly jammed. The incident was confirmed by high ranking officers of the Iranian Air Force and later documented by several agencies of the U.S. military.-ufoevidence.com

You can hear General Parviz Jafari (ret.), who was the pilot of one of the F-4 jets, speak about his experience chasing the UFO here:

You can read the report from the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency from the following article called "12 Government Documents That Take UFOs Seriously." In the article scroll down to #9 and you can read more about the Iran UFO incident and also the DIA report that was received via FOIA. Anyways, here is the link: -12 Government Documents That Take UFOs Seriously

Here is an excerpt from the DIA report:

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An outstanding report. This case is a classic which meets all the criteria necessary for a valid study of the UFO phenomenon: a) the object was seen by multiple witnesses from different locations … and viewpoints. b) the credibility of many of the witnesses was high (an Air Force general, qualified air crews, and experienced radar operators). c) visual sightings were confirmed by radar. d) similar electromagnetic effects (EME) were reported by three separate aircraft. e) there were physiological effects on some crew members (i.e. loss of night vision due to the brightness of the object). f) an inordinate amount of maneuverability was displayed by the UFOs.”-DIA report

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