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Old 09-03-2015, 02:45 AM   #41 (permalink)
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I have to admit, that vid from Major Jesse Marcel was pretty convincing.
Can you expand on that?

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Old 09-03-2015, 03:17 AM   #42 (permalink)
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As a kid I was fascinated by all this stuff, but once I grew older and read the sceptical explanations for such incidents, they sounded pretty reasonable to me.
Which explanations and for which cases are you referring to?
Because the evidence shows otherwise with regards to a large amount of cases.

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Even when dealing with the very few genuinely puzzling cases there is nothing that points to extraterrestrials.
How so, and which cases? Because again, the evidence suggests otherwise.
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There's a ton of known and unknown atmospheric and even purely optical effects that could explain sightings.
Absolutely correct, but not all of them.

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And of course people might simply lie, be mistaken or see what they wan't to see. No scientist, politician or high ranking military man is immune to that.
True.
But is that what is happening with every case?
After researching the available evidence, the answer is clearly no.

Let me ask you something, if a UFO shuts down a nuclear missile site, would that not constitute as something real? Because it has happened more than once.
Here is a National Press Club event from 2010 with multiple military personnel testifying about what happened at different nuclear missile facilities.
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Old 09-03-2015, 08:18 AM   #43 (permalink)
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What makes you think it's something extra-terrestrial, as opposed to, say, the Russians?
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Old 09-03-2015, 09:38 AM   #44 (permalink)
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So in other words since you fail to address the information and have chosen to slander, I suppose my conversation with you is finished.

However, if you would like to be mature and debate the information directly, I would be more than happy to continue with this conversation.

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Can you expand on that?
I personally believe aliens exist however unlike you i don't feel the need to prove their existence but that vid from the major to me was pretty convincing cause he was there and hearing him describe the remains they found sounded legit.

I find the subject of Ufo's and aliens very interesting but at the same time very fictional. Facts are mixed with assumptions and conspiracy theories about government cover ups and it all gets pretty confusing and far fetched.
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Old 09-04-2015, 08:41 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Totally explained. I got to see that live during the short time we lived in Temp, AZ.
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That's nice.

Can you address the information?

Or not?
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Sorry that me existing outside of your echo chamber has offended you so much.
No offense, just stick to the information. That's whats important.
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I personally believe aliens exist however unlike you i don't feel the need to prove their existence but that vid from the major to me was pretty convincing cause he was there and hearing him describe the remains they found sounded legit.

I find the subject of Ufo's and aliens very interesting but at the same time very fictional. Facts are mixed with assumptions and conspiracy theories about government cover ups and it all gets pretty confusing and far fetched.
That's fair.

I agree there is a lot of junk out there, a lot of it confusing and hard to get to the bottom of.

My desire to spread the word about the UFO phenomenon is because I feel that the more people know about it, eventually it will reach a tipping point to where the government is forced to release all the information on the subject.

I think the secrecy withing the black budget world is damaging the rest of our civilization. If they have this kind of technology which obviously does not run on petroleum, then that would mean we the rest of the world would no longer need gas or oil. This would literally change the way our entire civilization works, because we are currently within a petro centered global system.

On public record the black budget world gets $50 billion a year! That's every single year and thats just what is being reported! Whats more is the fact that all this money and personnel goes into these programs and nothing comes out. Its like they are just keeping it all to themselves and just using the rest of the worlds money for their own uses. They dont give us any new technology from these programs, they are not making any additional money to put back into the global financial system. They are literally siphoning finances and resources from our world into theirs, the "black world."

I feel that the UFO phenomenon and the disclosure of their existence would act as a catalyst for real change in our world.

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What makes you think it's something extra-terrestrial, as opposed to, say, the Russians?
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