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Old 07-17-2015, 08:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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So, yeah, this may be a stupid thread or whatever, but after playing Bioshock Infinite and getting a pretty good insight on what this theory is, i'm interested in hearing your guys's thoughts. So basically the theory reads:

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The paradox is described as follows: the time traveller goes back in time and kills his grandfather before his grandfather meets his grandmother. As a result, the time traveller is never born. But, if he was never born, then he is unable to travel through time and kill his grandfather, which means the traveller would then be born after all, and so on.
I'd also like to talk about the theory of parallel universes and i'm curious if you guys think that it's somehow possible that at this very moment, there are multiple universes in which you exist / don't exist.
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Is there a parallel universe in which God exists?
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The paradox is described as follows: the time traveller goes back in time and kills his grandfather before his grandfather meets his grandmother. As a result, the time traveller is never born. But, if he was never born, then he is unable to travel through time and kill his grandfather, which means the traveller would then be born after all, and so on.
I still haven't played any of the Bioshock series, save for a few minutes spent on the second game, but that sh*t is seriously fu*king with me.
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Reminds me of that Futurama episode where Fry oes back in time and f*cks his grandma. "Roswell that Ends Well" I think it was. What a great episode.
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I was thinking the exact same thing.
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Star Trek has a whole lot of this sort of thing: temporal mechanics they call it. Doctor Who you would think so also, but they tend to (at least in the new series) avoid it a lot by saying what I consider to be stupid things like "The future is always in flux" or "the time line is never written", which only serves to give them an out when they do something that should upset the timeline but, you know, doesn't.

There's another workaround used a lot, where they say things like "the future resolves itself by building a new timeline." A bit mad really: in the grandfather thing, the suggestion is that if you go back in time and kill your grandpa, then in the "new" timeline you create by that action, your grandmother never met that guy and in fact hooks up with another guy, who then becomes your new grandpa, and so time resolves itself. Seems a sort of pussy-out to me.

Yeah, "Futurama" has some great ones, but I think Homer says it best...
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The theory states that in multiple dimensions, there lies the same people at the same time doing the same things within those different dimensions. It also says that if you can somehow manage to go back in time to those different dimensions, you'd be able to change the actions of your past self from doing something that you already know you're going to do. So..in terms of God existing in one of those dimensions, I suppose it's possible. The thing is, you'd have to go back far enough in time to find when and if God existed and somehow alter his existence by either killing him off, or making it so he never dies.

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I still haven't played any of the Bioshock series, save for a few minutes spent on the second game, but that sh*t is seriously fu*king with me.
Bioshock Infinite doesn't follow the "killing my grandfather" theory point by point, but it does focus on the theory of infinite dimensions and things like that. It's a fantastic game if you're really into games that have both great graphics and a great story.
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To answer the question: yes. I'm sure there are infinite universes where every possibility is played out.

There's probably even a really weird one where I don't make thread after thread here!
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To answer the question: yes. I'm sure there are infinite universes where every possibility is played out.

There's probably even a really weird one where I don't make thread after thread here!
It's just such a weird thing to think about. Imagine right now, there's an exact copy of you in the exact copy of the universe you're in right now, sitting right where you are right now at this exact moment. Yet, they do something different for a few seconds and it completely alters their universe to be something different than where you're sitting right now. Even more to that, imagine being able to take a sneak peak into that universe to see if something actually changes to possibly convince you that doing said thing would alter your own reality in a positive way.
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