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Frownland 07-17-2015 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kader (Post 1616116)
anyway racism is the fact that if all those killed in pakistan were american lives, people would actually care.

i'm going to go make some falafel peace out.

Is that really racism though? If it happened in Ethiopa, Ethiopians would feel more strongly about it than anyone else. If it happened in the US, they would feel the strongest about it. As it happens in Pakistan, Pakistanis are the most concerned with it. People grow a lot more interested in something when it's close to home. Proximity is one of the key factors of newsworthiness for this reason.

It is unfortunate that it's so underreported though.

Exo 07-17-2015 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kader (Post 1616119)
yes, i care. believe it or not.

Good. We care too. Stop making assumptions. It only makes you look spiteful and ignorant.

Kader 07-17-2015 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1616121)
Is that really racism though? If it happened in Ethiopa, Ethiopians would feel more strongly about it than anyone else. If it happened in the US, they would feel the strongest about it. As it happens in Pakistan, Pakistanis are the most concerned with it. People grow a lot more interested in something when it's close to home. Proximity is one of the key factors of newsworthiness for this reason.

It is unfortunate that it's so underreported though.

i generally keep up with news all over the world, and when i hear of ANYONE dying, it makes me sad regardless of where they are from. but maybe that is just me. and i can understand people being more upset about events in their own country just like i personally am saddened more by the events in palestine than in any other place. it's natural.

Exo 07-17-2015 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Kader (Post 1616116)
anyway racism is the fact that if all those killed in pakistan were american lives, people would actually care.

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Originally Posted by Kader (Post 1616123)
i generally keep up with news all over the world, and when i hear of ANYONE dying, it makes me sad regardless of where they are from. but maybe that is just me. and i can understand people being more upset about events in their own country just like i personally am saddened more by the events in palestine than in any other place. it's natural.

That was a quick turnaround.

Kader 07-17-2015 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 1616122)
Good. We care too. Stop making assumptions. It only makes you look spiteful and ignorant.

sorry if that is what it seemed like. that wasn't my intention. just american news gives me the idea that people don't care but i guess it's wrong of me to make that assumption.

Exo 07-17-2015 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Kader (Post 1616125)
sorry if that is what it seemed like. that wasn't my intention. just american news gives me the idea that people don't care but i guess it's wrong of me to make that assumption.

American news is the absolute WORST. It's horrible. We hate it too.

Kader 07-17-2015 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 1616124)
That was a quick turnaround.

how? i said when people die anywhere, it's saddening. but yes, i do get more emotional when it happens in my home? doesn't mean i don't care when it happens anywhere else? i meant people generally seem to show no interest at all to death in pakistan caused by drones.

Exo 07-17-2015 02:38 PM

I'm sure you think that way but you just said on the last page that nobody cares unless it's American lives being lost. You took a pot shot at America and I think it was ignorant to do so. You then agreed that people generally care more when it happens close to home. That it's natural. Last I checked, Palestine is very far away.

So what are you talking about?

The Batlord 07-17-2015 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kader (Post 1616127)
how? i said when people die anywhere, it's saddening. but yes, i do get more emotional when it happens in my home? doesn't mean i don't care when it happens anywhere else? i meant people generally seem to show no interest at all to death in pakistan caused by drones.

Do I like the idea of America being all imperial and launching strikes into a sovereign nation's territory? No. But I have a friend in the military, and if a drone strike means he doesn't die, then sorry, but I'm siding with my buddy.

Granted, he's in the Coast Guard, but the principle remains the same.

Kader 07-17-2015 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Exo (Post 1616128)
I'm sure you think that way but you just said on the last page that nobody cares unless it's American lives being lost. You took a pot shot at America and I think it was ignorant to do so. You then agreed that people generally care more when it happens close to home. That it's natural. Last I checked, Palestine is very far away.

So what are you talking about?

yes, people usually care more when it happens close to home. but if you pay close attention or watch the news, you will see that american or even european lives tend to be more valuable to the media/news. when i say no one cares i didn't really mean the general public but i meant that it doesn't get as much attention. yes, it is natural to care more about deaths in your own country however, not to ONLY care about those and choose not to report other deaths (possibly caused by your country) again, i am talking about reporters and the media. and not even all reporters, just most. i didn't mean the average american but i obviously didn't make that clear enough with my previous statements. i hope this makes more sense.


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