solution for homeless

GuD · 06-02-2015, 10:30 PM

Join the ****ing club

GuD · 06-02-2015, 11:35 PM

^I like that. ****, if someone builds a house they should at least be allowed to stay in it.

The Batlord · 06-03-2015, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

maybe like the hunger games, viewers could send characters a package at their own expense. so while they might not have any drugs on the island initially.. maybe once they get a relatively functional agrarian/hunting society going, someone can send them a package with marijuana seeds, or coca plant seeds, and watch the impact on said society. or conversely... send them the building blocks of some basic technology, like maybe some rudimentary tools to start harvesting and smelting metal. or maybe even some solar panels or something like that. the possibilities are vast.

Another good scenario... You have one society (Tribe A) who's doing well: successful farming, well constructed shelters, and a functioning group dynamic. But one of their neighbors (Tribe B) Asn't doing so well: maybe their homes got destroyed in a storm, maybe their land is bad for growing crops, maybe the audience sent them heroin, maybe they're all just ****ing nuts.

What now? I'll tell you what. The producers of the show announce on air that if enough callers donate a set amount of money... Tribe B will be sent guns.

Key · 06-03-2015, 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Hans Zimmerman

Solution for homeless? Employ them to clean the streets, construction, guard a property

Yeah, let's hire a homeless guy who (by ****ty luck)is on the streets for theft and violence to guard a property. What could possibly go wrong.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 06-03-2015, 01:01 PM

@ overcast

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

my previous comment still applies... in fact, nothing has changed

i was being a dick here

nothing wrong with survivalism... i think the image hippies have of it is a bit sugar coated... they tend to abhor the idea of inflicting pain on other creatures, reinforcing the very idea of humanity as something above and beyond the rest of the animal kingdom.

cause no other creature is vegetarian out of empathy for the feelings of others... they're driven to a vegetarian diet out of strategy because in their case and their ecological niche, it happens to be the most effective way of obtaining nutrients. semi off topic rant approaching
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but the more i think about it the less vegetarianism/veganism makes sense to me. because really we were born out of a system that necessitates that life feeds on life. vegetarians draw an arbitrary line as to which kind of life is ok to eat and which kind isn't. cause they're concerned about pain. but predation is built into the ecosystem we live in. so really they are just rejecting nature. or trying to separate humans from nature. and yet they tend to be the self proclaimed advocates of nature.

where as the hunter looks at the rest of the animal kingdom the same way any other predator does. so that's just humans engaging in the natural world.

so that's what i find interesting about survivalism... the idea of being able to hunt and grow **** and do whatever it takes to survive. but it doesn't look very easy or pleasant, tbh. so i'd probably prefer to stay in a high tech society.

but i do find tribes that still exist this way interesting. this is a pretty good documentary about such a tribe.

Watch Pure Nature Features: The Great Dance: a Hunter's Story Online | Hulu

they still exist. so maybe if you are really serious about wanting to disconnect from civilization and go primal, think about going to africa and trying to join in with these people.

Overcast · 06-03-2015, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

@ overcast

i was being a dick here

nothing wrong with survivalism... i think the image hippies have of it is a bit sugar coated... they tend to abhor the idea of inflicting pain on other creatures, reinforcing the very idea of humanity as something above and beyond the rest of the animal kingdom.

cause no other creature is vegetarian out of empathy for the feelings of others... they're driven to a vegetarian diet out of strategy because in their case and their ecological niche, it happens to be the most effective way of obtaining nutrients. semi off topic rant approaching
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but the more i think about it the less vegetarianism/veganism makes sense to me. because really we were born out of a system that necessitates that life feeds on life. vegetarians draw an arbitrary line as to which kind of life is ok to eat and which kind isn't. cause they're concerned about pain. but predation is built into the ecosystem we live in. so really they are just rejecting nature. or trying to separate humans from nature. and yet they tend to be the self proclaimed advocates of nature.

where as the hunter looks at the rest of the animal kingdom the same way any other predator does. so that's just humans engaging in the natural world.

so that's what i find interesting about survivalism... the idea of being able to hunt and grow **** and do whatever it takes to survive. but it doesn't look very easy or pleasant, tbh. so i'd probably prefer to stay in a high tech society.

but i do find tribes that still exist this way interesting. this is a pretty good documentary about such a tribe.

Watch Pure Nature Features: The Great Dance: a Hunter's Story Online | Hulu

they still exist. so maybe if you are really serious about wanting to disconnect from civilization and go primal, think about going to africa and trying to join in with these people.

I'm not personally a vegetarian. I'm real interested in farming/foraging though, not so much hunting and killing animals. I'd probably fish at the most. I love animals. I'm less interested in the barer bones of hardcore survivalism and more interested in the beauty of certain parts of nature. In my experience I'm only truly happy when I'm in the middle of that beauty. Campfires, rainstorms, isolation... I have a nihilistic viewpoint on life so being able to ditch my identity and become an observer living out my days in nature sounds like the best plan for me. I don't really fit into society since nothing that's important to most people means anything to me. I'm willing to ditch a lifetime of shelter, food and safety even if I just lasted a week tbh.

Trollheart · 06-03-2015, 02:32 PM

Could we stop referring to "the Homeless" as if they're a separate species please? They;re just the same as you and me, just we happen to be lucky enough to have a roof over our heads. A tiny change in circumstances and we could be on the street with them, yeah? Bit of compassion?

Disclaimer: This last obviously does not refer to The Batlord, who is excused from showing any kind of compassion whatever, and has it in writing.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 06-03-2015, 05:21 PM

^no

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 06-03-2015, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Overcast

I'm not personally a vegetarian. I'm real interested in farming/foraging though, not so much hunting and killing animals. I'd probably fish at the most. I love animals. I'm less interested in the barer bones of hardcore survivalism and more interested in the beauty of certain parts of nature. In my experience I'm only truly happy when I'm in the middle of that beauty. Campfires, rainstorms, isolation... I have a nihilistic viewpoint on life so being able to ditch my identity and become an observer living out my days in nature sounds like the best plan for me. I don't really fit into society since nothing that's important to most people means anything to me. I'm willing to ditch a lifetime of shelter, food and safety even if I just lasted a week tbh.

yea... i said that kind of **** when i was 19 too lol

Chula Vista · 06-03-2015, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Could we stop referring to "the Homeless" as if they're a separate species please? They;re just the same as you and me, just we happen to be lucky enough to have a roof over our heads. A tiny change in circumstances and we could be on the street with them, yeah? Bit of compassion?

Just for you Troll as I'm sure it will be met with derision from Mr. Boothe.

My daughter is behind this.

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06-03-2015, 02:32 PM	#67 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	Could we stop referring to "the Homeless" as if they're a separate species please? They;re just the same as you and me, just we happen to be lucky enough to have a roof over our heads. A tiny change in circumstances and we could be on the street with them, yeah? Bit of compassion? Disclaimer: This last obviously does not refer to The Batlord, who is excused from showing any kind of compassion whatever, and has it in writing. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

06-02-2015, 10:30 PM	#61 (permalink)
GuD Dude... What? Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,322	Join the ****ing club

06-02-2015, 11:35 PM	#62 (permalink)
GuD Dude... What? Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,322	^I like that. ****, if someone builds a house they should at least be allowed to stay in it.

06-03-2015, 05:21 PM	#68 (permalink)
~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	^no