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Mr. Charlie · 11-23-2015, 11:48 AM

^ That sinkhole is gorgeous.

I like the woods DwnWthVwls posted too. But, to be honest, even windswept bogs and marshes look good to me.

DwnWthVwls · 11-23-2015, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Charlie

^ That sinkhole is gorgeous.

I like the woods DwnWthVwls posted too. But, to be honest, even windswept bogs and marshes look good to me.

Yeh, that's pretty sweet Lisnaholic.

and I love the cedar swamp. It's kind of depressing but very peaceful.

~~ChelseaDagger~~ · 11-23-2015, 02:50 PM

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Yeh, that's pretty sweet Lisnaholic.

and I love the cedar swamp. It's kind of depressing but very peaceful.

First of all, where has this thread been all my life?!

Secondly, are food forests part of your studies, DWV? I know your climate is different than the one pictured in the 4 minute video below, still interesting as hell for anyone interested in forest gardening and permaculture systems in general...

"2000 year old food forest found in morocco"...

DwnWthVwls · 11-23-2015, 03:14 PM

They are not. I only recently heard about them, and checked out a couple videos on youtube. Definitely something I'm interested in. I'm still exploring the field but I'm leaning towards Silviculture/Prescribed burning for forest restoration.

Thanks for the video.

~~ChelseaDagger~~ · 11-23-2015, 04:28 PM

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They are not. I only recently heard about them, and checked out a couple videos on youtube. Definitely something I'm interested in. I'm still exploring the field but I'm leaning towards Silviculture/Prescribed burning for forest restoration.

Thanks for the video.

As in, burning for soil restoration? I have been learning about soil restoration, mostly from a microbiological perspective. If I could go back in time, I would have studied microbiology. Plays such an important role in every type of ecosystem, from permaculture farming to the human body ecological system.

Lisnaholic · 11-23-2015, 05:13 PM

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.... But, to be honest, even windswept bogs and marshes look good to me.

^ Windswept bogs and marshes are good Mr.Charlie! Although they are only mentioned once in this song, that´s excuse enough for me to post it anyway :-

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Yeh, that's pretty sweet Lisnaholic.

and I love the cedar swamp. It's kind of depressing but very peaceful.

^ Yes, I can understand that - your photos made me think of some H.P. Lovecraft story though: with the sun going down, I would definitely prefer to be back on the main road thanks!

DwnWthVwls · 11-23-2015, 06:06 PM

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As in, burning for soil restoration? I have been learning about soil restoration, mostly from a microbiological perspective. If I could go back in time, I would have studied microbiology. Plays such an important role in every type of ecosystem, from permaculture farming to the human body ecological system.

I'm not sure of its effect on soils, but around here there are a couple reasons.

Landscape biodiversity (the oaks are out competing pine stands in a lot of cases where natural fire has been suppressed), safety (to reduce fuel loads on the forest floor), and habitat restoration for hunting (in Pa this is a large focus) and species support.

Here is a great picture Ben Jones presented at the NAFSE workshop my college hosted a few weeks ago:

https://pagamecommission.wordpress.c...-and-wildlife/

~~ChelseaDagger~~ · 11-23-2015, 06:41 PM

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I'm not sure of its effect on soils, but around here there are a couple reasons.

Landscape biodiversity (the oaks are out competing pine stands in a lot of cases where natural fire has been suppressed), safety (to reduce fuel loads on the forest floor), and habitat restoration for hunting (in Pa this is a large focus) and species support.

Here is a great picture Ben Jones presented at the NAFSE workshop my college hosted a few weeks ago:

https://pagamecommission.wordpress.c...-and-wildlife/

That's wonderful! I'm obsessed with creating self-sustaining habitats, especially for birds and beneficial insects. Where I live, the pines usually outcompete everything else, which sucks since they're a softwood and certainly not as useful to recycle after they come down (which is quite often, due to extreme fluctuations in weather... like snow making the ranches snap easily because of the soft wood). I have to hire a tree service to cut some of my own down, and I'm trying to figure out the best way to recycle the wood; it sucks because I can't use it for hugelkultur (ie: self-composting mound gardening) due to its antimicrobial properties (takes too long to decompose and doesnt retain water well)...so I'll probably just end up chipping the wood and using it for mulch in the garden. I'll probably replant understory trees in their place; something native and useful; like fruit trees, or herbal trees (like sassafrass or watch hazel), or perhaps nitrogen fixing trees (assuming any of those will grow in zone 8 lol).

DwnWthVwls · 11-23-2015, 06:55 PM

Where do you live? I know of zones but haven't learned what areas the #s represent.

Also, is all of that just stuff you do as a hobby, or do you have a related career?

~~ChelseaDagger~~ · 11-23-2015, 07:05 PM

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Where do you live? I know of zones but haven't learned what areas the #s represent.

Also, is all of that just stuff you do as a hobby, or do you have a related career?

No formal education, just another strange obsession of mine. Maybe someday I'll make it "official" with a degree...if life ever slows down enough for that (yeah, right).

Google "zone gardening" for a map. It's more complex than mere linear latitude/longitude lines since you're dealing with climate.

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Mr. Charlie Shoo Thoughts Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: These Mountains Posts: 2,308	^ That sinkhole is gorgeous. I like the woods DwnWthVwls posted too. But, to be honest, even windswept bogs and marshes look good to me.