Can we please start acting like rational human beings?

DeadChannel · 05-27-2015, 08:31 PM

Some of you know where I stand w/r/t debate. I think it's a good thing. Debating helps me to understand other people's positions, and it allows me to apply rigor to my own logic. There have been people here who I have disagreed with in the past, but I'd like to think that I, and hopefully my opponents have been able to keep an even keel, and not take things too personally.

But, you know what? This forum, being among my favorite places on the internet, has really made me sad of late. It seems like no one can discuss anything before people start throwing flaming vitriolic **** at each other. Must every topic end up with wanton ad homineming everywhere? Irrationality isn't justified because you think someone is a piece of **** for their point of view. Maybe they are, but you should articulate your logic before you make yourself look like an idiot.

I mean, ****, if you want to argue, great, but try to remain civil. And if you think I'm full of **** in this post, you should tell me why, rationally.

Key · 05-27-2015, 08:32 PM

This wouldn't be MusicBanter if we were all civil. Humans have a natural tendency to argue with one another. History at this forum does show that the people in arguments tend to be cool with each other even after going through the challenges of an argument. I really don't think many people here actually legitimately hate each other.

Guybrush · 05-28-2015, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Ki

This wouldn't be MusicBanter if we were all civil.

I generally try to stay out of inane threads and discussions, especially the constant bickering. I've been around MB for a long time and there's still some great discussion going on (see re: homeostasis for a current example). It generally happens in a very few threads, but that tiny bit of activity is what keeps me here at the moment.

The rest of MB, particularly the uncivil bickering, is trash to me. And this site has been losing a lot of members who feel the same way up to very recently, I suspect.

I don't think MB belongs to those who contribute to the inane bickerings and drama. I know it seems like it does - and has for a long time - but I don't think it should.

Trollheart · 05-28-2015, 05:15 AM

I haven't read that thread, and don't intend to, but I thought namecalling and insults got you at least warned, if not banned? I know I got a warning for something I said. Is this now because Urban is gone, nobody is getting infracted? There shouldn't really be a reason for sinking to namecalling, except in humour, you shower of useless bastards.

Namecalling should really be seen as the lowest form of debate.
Cunts.

Justthefacts · 05-29-2015, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

I haven't read that thread, and don't intend to, but I thought namecalling and insults got you at least warned, if not banned? I know I got a warning for something I said. Is this now because Urban is gone, nobody is getting infracted? There shouldn't really be a reason for sinking to namecalling, except in humour, you shower of useless bastards.

Namecalling should really be seen as the lowest form of debate.
Cunts.

Shit reviewer

Machine · 05-29-2015, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Justthefacts

Shit reviewer

Shots fired

Trollheart · 05-29-2015, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Justthefacts

Shit reviewer

Well I did review Merzbow, so that statement could be said to be true. I'll grant you that one.

Neapolitan · 05-29-2015, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tore

I generally try to stay out of inane threads and discussions, especially the constant bickering.

In my book imho MB never really lived up to its name MusicBanter.
I wish there was one totally inane thread that was constant non-stop bantering, like an amazingly inane topic or something and it would be pages long and metaphysically cover everything possible in the universe and every post would make you chuckle ... one can only dream.

Trollheart · 05-30-2015, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

In my book imho MB never really lived up to its name MusicBanter.
I wish there was one totally inane thread that was constant non-stop bantering, like an amazingly inane topic or something and it would be pages long and metaphysically cover everything possible in the universe and every post would make you chuckle ... one can only dream.

You know what they say: be the change! Go ahead and start it. If ye dare....

DwnWthVwls · 05-30-2015, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

In my book imho MB never really lived up to its name MusicBanter.
I wish there was one totally inane thread that was constant non-stop bantering, like an amazingly inane topic or something and it would be pages long and metaphysically cover everything possible in the universe and every post would make you chuckle ... one can only dream.

We had it.. then a mod got pissy and locked it.

It was called Spill Your Guts.

05-27-2015, 08:31 PM	#1 (permalink)
DeadChannel Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Canada Posts: 1,259	Can we please start acting like rational human beings? Some of you know where I stand w/r/t debate. I think it's a good thing. Debating helps me to understand other people's positions, and it allows me to apply rigor to my own logic. There have been people here who I have disagreed with in the past, but I'd like to think that I, and hopefully my opponents have been able to keep an even keel, and not take things too personally. But, you know what? This forum, being among my favorite places on the internet, has really made me sad of late. It seems like no one can discuss anything before people start throwing flaming vitriolic ** at each other. Must every topic end up with wanton ad homineming everywhere? Irrationality isn't justified because you think someone is a piece of for their point of view. Maybe they are, but you should articulate your logic before you make yourself look like an idiot. I mean, , if you want to argue, great, but try to remain civil. And if you think I'm full of ** in this post, you should tell me why, rationally.

05-28-2015, 05:15 AM	#4 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,996	I haven't read that thread, and don't intend to, but I thought namecalling and insults got you at least warned, if not banned? I know I got a warning for something I said. Is this now because Urban is gone, nobody is getting infracted? There shouldn't really be a reason for sinking to namecalling, except in humour, you shower of useless bastards. Namecalling should really be seen as the lowest form of debate. Cunts. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

05-27-2015, 08:32 PM	#2 (permalink)
Key . Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 13,153	This wouldn't be MusicBanter if we were all civil. Humans have a natural tendency to argue with one another. History at this forum does show that the people in arguments tend to be cool with each other even after going through the challenges of an argument. I really don't think many people here actually legitimately hate each other.