Kids: you gotta love 'em!

Trollheart · 05-04-2015, 05:04 AM

I will never have children, and even if by some miracle it happened that I met someone who wanted kids, I know I am way too selfish an individual to get involved in raising a child. I know that generally, once you have children your life is effectively over and what is yours is theirs. I recall one episode of "Roseanne" which illustrated this negative aspect of being a father brilliantly:

Dan goes to see this friend of his who has a big screen TV, satellite, massive stereo system, the works. The guy is single and Dan marvels at the stereo, as they swap techy info. He says "I once had a great system like this". The guy remarks "Oh yeah? What you got now?" Dan says glumly "Clock radio."

It's a great depiction of how, once you have children they take over your life and all your disposable income basically goes to raise them, or to give them what they want/need as they grow up. Someone once said you never stop being a parent, and I can believe it. That's part of the downside. There's also the sleepless nights, changing nappies/diapers, frantic visits to the doctor when something seems wrong, and all the other little things that can drive you mad as a parent.

But they're only the negative aspects. Let's get some perspective on this thing. I can't speak from personal experience, but I can only imagine the joy and pride of a father or mother when their son or daughter, for instance, graduates, gets a job, gets married. The simple pleasure of teaching your child to ride a bike, or play guitar or football. Those nights they sneak in to your room, escaping the bogeyman in the closet. That first time they call you daddy or mommy. So many wonderful memories can be built around children. Their first day at school, their first birthday, the baptism, the first time they make friends.

It doesn't matter if you think people shouldn't have kids: nobody's saying you have to personally add to the population if you don't wish to. But surely everyone can find one thing good to say about kids? Some are little bastards, sure, but let's not tar them all with one brush. Have you never listened to little girls playing shop, or boys playing football or chasing? Never answered the door to some cute kid wanting you to sponsor them for some walk or other, or who wants to see your cat or cut your grass?

So anyone who has, or wants, children, or just anyone who likes children post your thoughts here. The sloppier and more cringeworthy the better. Post pics if you want, and let us know your thoughts on kids. If you're a proud dad or mom, or going to be, or want to be, talk to us.

Because remember, the children are our future.
Unless we stop them...

Oriphiel · 05-04-2015, 05:46 AM

So this is basically the "Let's Try to Convert Ki and Lis Into Child Lovers!" thread?

Come on, just leave them alone. They may seem a bit extreme in their views towards parenthood, but believe me, it's very easy to become jaded when you have to put with horrible children and terrible parents every day. Maybe one day they'll change their minds, maybe not, but it sure as hell isn't going to be a half-assed thread that convinces them to start loving those little rascals.

The Batlord · 05-04-2015, 06:01 AM

I saw a kid once. I still have the scar.

Psy-Fi · 05-04-2015, 06:11 AM

Plankton · 05-04-2015, 08:10 AM

^^Pippi da hippie.

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

I know that generally, once you have children your life is effectively over...

It's all perspective. Some people see it as their life beginning a new and exciting chapter.

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

I can only imagine the joy and pride of a father or mother when their son or daughter, for instance, graduates, gets a job, gets married. The simple pleasure of teaching your child to ride a bike, or play guitar or football. Those nights they sneak in to your room, escaping the bogeyman in the closet. That first time they call you daddy or mommy. So many wonderful memories can be built around children. Their first day at school, their first birthday, the baptism, the first time they make friends.

All the 'firsts' are wonderful, but I wasn't there for when my daughter caught her first fish, which actually brought me to tears for some reason. I don't even fish all that much. I guess it's the fact that I actually missed it that hurts. One of the best things about being a parent to a grown child though now days, is when my daughter calls me up just to tell me she loves me, and that she's lucky to have me for a father. My heart just wants to jump out of my chest.

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

It doesn't matter if you think people shouldn't have kids: nobody's saying you have to personally add to the population if you don't wish to. But surely everyone can find one thing good to say about kids? Some are little bastards, sure, but let's not tar them all with one brush. Have you never listened to little girls playing shop, or boys playing football or chasing? Never answered the door to some cute kid wanting you to sponsor them for some walk or other, or who wants to see your cat or cut your grass?

So anyone who has, or wants, children, or just anyone who likes children post your thoughts here. The sloppier and more cringeworthy the better. Post pics if you want, and let us know your thoughts on kids. If you're a proud dad or mom, or going to be, or want to be, talk to us.

Because remember, the children are our future.
Unless we stop them...

The most important role as a parent is teaching your child/children how to be compassionate, understanding, and nurturing. It gives them a solid foundation for a healthy life ahead of them, and I've done this by way of example. I've never used phrases like "Because I said so", or exerted my will upon my daughter just out of my own ego. When ever my daughter did something questionable, I'd kneel down to her level, look her in the eye, and calmly explain why she shouldn't do what ever it was she was doing. This was always met with an "Ok Dad." as she'd scamper away and that would be the end of it. I've never had the inkling, or the need to have to hit my daughter for punishment either. I see other parents do the opposite of these things, as well as other bad parenting habits, and then they ask why their kids are out of control. Children are like little sponge mirrors. They'll soak up all you show them, then they'll mirror all of that back to you tenfold.

I could really go on and on about parenting. In my short 21 years as being one, I have to say I wouldn't trade a minute of it for anything else in the universe.

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~~Cuthbert~~ · 05-04-2015, 08:36 AM

You reckon it's wrong to hit your kids then? I was going to post a thread about it ages ago but since you brought it up.

simplephysics · 05-04-2015, 08:42 AM

Plank that is quite possibly the sweetest thing I've ever seen on this forum.

Plankton · 05-04-2015, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by monkeytennis

You reckon it's wrong to hit your kids then? I was going to post a thread about it ages ago but since you brought it up.

Go ahead. I'd like to see where it goes.

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Originally Posted by dreadnaught

Plank that is quite possibly the sweetest thing I've ever seen on this forum.

Thanks Naught. Not trying to give anyone diabetes, just telling my story.

Trollheart · 05-04-2015, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Oriphiel

So this is basically the "Let's Try to Convert Ki and Lis Into Child Lovers!" thread?

Come on, just leave them alone. They may seem a bit extreme in their views towards parenthood, but believe me, it's very easy to become jaded when you have to put with horrible children and terrible parents every day. Maybe one day they'll change their minds, maybe not, but it sure as hell isn't going to be a half-assed thread that convinces them to start loving those little rascals.

At this moment I couldn't give a **** about Ki and Lil. This is to try to redress the balance and clear some of the kid hatred out of the air, and also because I think children can be great. Though they can be an annoyance there is a lot more to them than that. I felt this needed to be made and so I made it. I honestly don't care what they do; both have nosedived in my estimation like you would not believe.

The world doesn't revolve around those two, you know.

It revolves around me...

Trollheart · 05-04-2015, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

I was a kid once. I still have the scar.

Fixed

(The BatBaby.... dear god!)

05-04-2015, 05:04 AM	#1 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,994	Kids: you gotta love 'em! I will never have children, and even if by some miracle it happened that I met someone who wanted kids, I know I am way too selfish an individual to get involved in raising a child. I know that generally, once you have children your life is effectively over and what is yours is theirs. I recall one episode of "Roseanne" which illustrated this negative aspect of being a father brilliantly: Dan goes to see this friend of his who has a big screen TV, satellite, massive stereo system, the works. The guy is single and Dan marvels at the stereo, as they swap techy info. He says "I once had a great system like this". The guy remarks "Oh yeah? What you got now?" Dan says glumly "Clock radio." It's a great depiction of how, once you have children they take over your life and all your disposable income basically goes to raise them, or to give them what they want/need as they grow up. Someone once said you never stop being a parent, and I can believe it. That's part of the downside. There's also the sleepless nights, changing nappies/diapers, frantic visits to the doctor when something seems wrong, and all the other little things that can drive you mad as a parent. But they're only the negative aspects. Let's get some perspective on this thing. I can't speak from personal experience, but I can only imagine the joy and pride of a father or mother when their son or daughter, for instance, graduates, gets a job, gets married. The simple pleasure of teaching your child to ride a bike, or play guitar or football. Those nights they sneak in to your room, escaping the bogeyman in the closet. That first time they call you daddy or mommy. So many wonderful memories can be built around children. Their first day at school, their first birthday, the baptism, the first time they make friends. It doesn't matter if you think people shouldn't have kids: nobody's saying you have to personally add to the population if you don't wish to. But surely everyone can find one thing good to say about kids? Some are little bastards, sure, but let's not tar them all with one brush. Have you never listened to little girls playing shop, or boys playing football or chasing? Never answered the door to some cute kid wanting you to sponsor them for some walk or other, or who wants to see your cat or cut your grass? So anyone who has, or wants, children, or just anyone who likes children post your thoughts here. The sloppier and more cringeworthy the better. Post pics if you want, and let us know your thoughts on kids. If you're a proud dad or mom, or going to be, or want to be, talk to us. Because remember, the children are our future. Unless we stop them... __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

05-04-2015, 05:46 AM	#2 (permalink)
Oriphiel Ask me how! Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: The States Posts: 5,354	So this is basically the "Let's Try to Convert Ki and Lis Into Child Lovers!" thread? Come on, just leave them alone. They may seem a bit extreme in their views towards parenthood, but believe me, it's very easy to become jaded when you have to put with horrible children and terrible parents every day. Maybe one day they'll change their minds, maybe not, but it sure as hell isn't going to be a half-assed thread that convinces them to start loving those little rascals.

05-04-2015, 08:36 AM	#6 (permalink)
~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	You reckon it's wrong to hit your kids then? I was going to post a thread about it ages ago but since you brought it up.