OK, that's it guys. I've said me piece and I'm not responding to any further drama, though it looks like you're getting this back on track, for which my thanks Orph.

I explained why I created the thread and what I wanted it to encompass, so let's just get back to that and leave the drama behind.

Plankton, I disagree but respect the fact that you posted. I will hope (hope) that we see less nasty messages in posts from Lil, now that she knows it infuriates at least me, but if not then all I'll do is put her on Ignore. I can live without her drunken rambles anyway, don't think I'll be missing too much. But I hope it won't come to that, as I prefer not to have to go down that road.

Anyhoo, back on-topic.

The funny thing about this is, I am terrible with children. I mean, terrible. I feel awkward around them, never know what to say and feel they pick up on that. I'm not one of these who can be cool around kids, and if I'm honest I prefer not to be around them, but as I said there's no nicer sound than young girls laughing and playing shop or boys and girls chasing or whatever. I love it when they come to the door for sponsorship, and often ask "How many cats do you have?" Sometimes they want to come in and I have to say no, the cats are having their dinner, and I always imagine they see my three cats sitting at a table with knives and forks, discussing the business of the day among each other, or reading the newspaper. :laughing:

But yeah, I could never deal with kids as a parent: I would not have the patience. I am consistently in awe, however, of those who are able not only to do so, but to make it seem like it's no big thing, which I know it certainly is.

Um, not helping the general atmos...
Oh man, that's cruel! Two for one: you get YD and TH in the one shot! Now that's economy! Who says the world is on the brink of financial collapse? :laughing:
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Again, I understand your anger but it's just going to freshly poison what is becoming relatively palatable coolaid (what the **** is that anyway?) so I'd say either take Orph's suggestion of PM or just let it go. It's not going to be to anyone's advantage for you two to slug it out here, and I'd rather we all got back on topic here if possible.
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YorkeDaddy, Roxy was right. When people try to talk to you, you literally say "I don't give a fuck, you'll never change my mind", and ignore them (which defeats the purpose of talking to people in the first place). Then when they inevitably shrug and walk away, you yell "Don't run away, you coward!" Talking with you in any capacity actively decreases the intelligence of everyone in this thread. You exist purely to extract as much attention from people as possible, and can't stand the fact that literally nobody gives a fuck about anything you have to say. You're right; I did start this in public, and that was my mistake. But when someone tries to move things out of a public area so that everyone else can go on with their lives, and you refuse because you can't get off unless you get the public attention that you crave, then that's your mistake.

Trollheart, the one who made this thread, has asked for it to get back on track, so I'll make it simple for you; you can prove to me that you actually give a shit about not bothering others, and take this to PMs, or you can keep blathering on, trying to tear people down to boost whatever shreds of pride and self-esteem you have within you. If you choose the latter, then I will have to do what everyone else already does, and ignore your posts.

Boy if I cared at all to pick apart all the strawmanning and inane ad hominem (that I have in fact not spewed about you at all, in fact I threw in a compliment to try and assure you I have no hard feelings in the long run) I'd have a field day with this. But alas, it is not worth it, and you are clearly not in the majority when it comes to this because I don't see anybody else telling me I can't have my opinion. At least you acknowledged you stepped out of line, but the fact you expect me to change my mind on something I'm so passionate about just numbs my brain, I do not understand how you can expect that out of anyone.

Hey Trollheart, I was curious about something in your OP...

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Ah, no worries.

I would always call my daughter when I was on stage right before we went on, and sometimes have the audience say "Hello [insert my daughters name]!" as her friends listened over her speaker phone. How cool is that.

It can be a thing. Especially when they're sick and need medical attention. Which hasn't happened all that often, but when it did... well, you know how I can get. At least I think you do.

:d

You're the best parent ever. :bowdown:

Man, remember how there were interesting,insightful, and civil conversations being sparked on the first page and then the thread deteriorated into the same old bull**** from every other thread?

Cos a) I'm ugly (well, certainly no catch) and b) I have no girlfriend, nor ever likely to as my sister is my world until she or I die, and you could not in fairness expect any woman to play second fiddle to that.
On a scale of 1 to 10? About a Googleplex! :thumb: Bet she loved that!
I think you misread that. I meant, people who are parents can make it seem like it's no big deal, they do this every day and have got used to it, when I know that it can be very draining and require all your attention and time. It was a compliment of course, but I think your post above shows that you thought I was saying something else?