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WWWP 05-05-2015 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1586431)
to me, i'd say it's self defeating since it starts off with a premise that is based in moral argument and human empathy, which, according to modern science, is only a tool we have developed to make us even better at pumping out more humans

Hm, I haven't read much about that. Do you have any links handy? That's not a skeptical "hm," by the way, I'm genuinely interested.

ladyislingering 05-05-2015 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1586433)
Customer service. What's your point?

then you've thought to yourself "please don't breed" after interactions with MANY people.

Some people are just unsuitable.

The Batlord 05-05-2015 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ladyislingering (Post 1586436)
then you've thought to yourself "please don't breed" after interactions with MANY people.

Some people are just unsuitable.

Sure, but that doesn't mean I give a **** either way. At least not enough to develop a philosophy about it.

DwnWthVwls 05-05-2015 08:33 PM

I don't want less people to have kids because I have something against the stupidity of humans. I want less people to have children because there is a serious population problem that needs to be addressed and no one seems to give a fuck about the future generations. I mean the goal is to become scientifically/technologically advanced enough to escape the planet and inhabit others before the world resets itself (leading to human extinction), which is an inevitable based on what we know about the the history of it's existence. Right?

Frownland 05-05-2015 08:39 PM

God's got our back, he'll just drown the human race again except for a single family.

John Wilkes Booth 05-05-2015 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon (Post 1586435)
Hm, I haven't read much about that. Do you have any links handy? That's not a skeptical "hm," by the way, I'm genuinely interested.

links about how we evolved empathy, or what? i'm a bit confused by the question, or maybe you were confused by the way i worded my post?

basically i was referring to the fact that empathy manifested as a biological tool. and the basis for every biological tool is the ultimately the successful reproduction of a genetic lineage. i.e. having kids/pumping out humans

DwnWthVwls 05-05-2015 08:53 PM

Sounds like an over simplification to an incredibly complex system. The brain does many things which go against saving genetic lineage, how do you differentiate between traits we acquired from successful evolution versus human emotion?

Edit: Maybe not genetic lineage but definitely general reproduction. We aren't like other animals whose only goal in life is finding a suitable mate to reproduce.

WWWP 05-05-2015 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1586442)
links about how we evolved empathy, or what? i'm a bit confused by the question, or maybe you were confused by the way i worded my post?

basically i was referring to the fact that empathy manifested as a biological tool. and the basis for every biological tool is the ultimately the successful reproduction of a genetic lineage. i.e. having kids/pumping out humans

I guess this is the part that didn't click with me the first time. I'll blame it on my stoner brain. That is interesting though, I haven't given that notion a lot of thought until now. I'm a terrible scientist.

John Wilkes Booth 05-05-2015 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1586444)
Sounds like an over simplification to an incredibly complex system. The brain does many things which go against saving genetic lineage, how do you differentiate between traits we acquired from successful evolution versus human emotion?

what?

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Edit: Maybe not genetic lineage but definitely general reproduction. We aren't like other animals whose only goal in life is finding a suitable mate to reproduce.
yes we are.

John Wilkes Booth 05-05-2015 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon (Post 1586446)
I guess this is the part that didn't click with me the first time. I'll blame it on my stoner brain. That is interesting though, I haven't given that notion a lot of thought until now. I'm a terrible scientist.

**** happens. i've been there, though i'm not a scientist.


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