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05-05-2015, 05:52 PM | #101 (permalink) | |
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No worries; heads got hot. I said some things too that I apologise for. It's all good.
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05-05-2015, 07:24 PM | #102 (permalink) | |
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i mean having kids is objectively the only reason you exist obviously i'm not ridiculing you for not wanting them, as i don't really particularly want them either but to criticize the logic of people having kids... its sort of like calling out a computer program for performing the one specific function it was designed to perform |
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05-05-2015, 07:46 PM | #103 (permalink) |
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I went through a phase where I was heavily involved in an antinatalist/voluntary human extinction movement community. Coincidentally I stopped identifying with the ideals as strongly after I addressed and got a handle on my depression.
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05-05-2015, 07:54 PM | #104 (permalink) | |
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Voluntary human extinction? The idea that someone could take such a concept so seriously seems as egotistical and self-indulgent an idea as how they would argue wanting to have children is. Someone that has clearly thought about such a thing to that extent, and has such a high opinion of their own brilliance is clearly in love with themselves, whether or not they're depressed.
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05-05-2015, 08:04 PM | #105 (permalink) | |
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05-05-2015, 08:15 PM | #106 (permalink) | |
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i do think pragmatically it makes sense not to have kids in certain situations, based on selfish needs but to try to create a movement for the extinction of ones own species... it just seems to run contrary to the basic premises of biology which, if you are an atheist, is sort of the only store in town that has any hope of selling you some stock in life's intrinsic value imo |
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05-05-2015, 08:23 PM | #107 (permalink) | |
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05-05-2015, 08:28 PM | #108 (permalink) | |
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05-05-2015, 08:42 PM | #109 (permalink) |
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to me, i'd say it's self defeating since it starts off with a premise that is based in moral argument and human empathy, which, according to modern science, is only a tool we have developed to make us even better at pumping out more humans
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05-05-2015, 08:47 PM | #110 (permalink) | |
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