Originally Posted by Oriphiel (Post 1586361)

Maybe you could become a professional writer? I feel like I've heard you mention before that you write stories.

Anyway, I want to apologize to you and YorkeDaddy. I got pretty worked up, and said some foolish things.

Originally Posted by ladyislingering (Post 1585908)

I don't think the childfree life is extreme or anything new to society. Any reason a breeder might have as to why it's necessary for literally every human to procreate can easily be debunked by logic. I've gotten a lot of dirty looks for saying that I'm childfree, never had a want/need to procreate, and would like to be sterilized in the future to ensure my forever-freedom from children, but I've also met a ton of amazing people (including parents who don't act like sanctimommies, foaming out their mouths about their child every 5 seconds) who don't act like total dicks about the whole thing.

take care of the children who are already alive and in need (e.g.; children who were born to drug addicts and other people incapable of handling their reproductive organs in a responsible fashion) if you care so damned much about them - it makes more sense than making more, which is just a thinly veiled byproduct of your ego.

Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon (Post 1586419)

I went through a phase where I was heavily involved in an antinatalist/voluntary human extinction movement community. Coincidentally I stopped identifying with the ideals as strongly after I addressed and got a handle on my depression.

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1586422)

Voluntary human extinction? The idea that someone could take such a concept so seriously seems as egotistical and self-indulgent an idea as how they would argue wanting to have children is. Someone that has clearly thought about such a thing to that extent, and has such a high opinion of their own brilliance is clearly in love with themselves, whether or not they're depressed.

Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon (Post 1586419)

I went through a phase where I was heavily involved in an antinatalist/voluntary human extinction movement community. Coincidentally I stopped identifying with the ideals as strongly after I addressed and got a handle on my depression.

Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1586426)

yea, i remember that, actually. i didn't know that was you, but i remember that someone on this board was saying how its cruel to have kids and i couldn't get my mind around it

i do think pragmatically it makes sense not to have kids in certain situations, based on selfish needs

but to try to create a movement for the extinction of ones own species... it just seems to run contrary to the basic premises of biology

which, if you are an atheist, is sort of the only store in town that has any hope of selling you some stock in life's intrinsic value

imo

Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1586422)

Voluntary human extinction? The idea that someone could take such a concept so seriously seems as egotistical and self-indulgent an idea as how they would argue wanting to have children is. Someone that has clearly thought about such a thing to that extent, and has such a high opinion of their own brilliance is clearly in love with themselves, whether or not they're depressed.

Originally Posted by wolverinewolfweiselpigeon (Post 1586427)

There are certainly still aspects that make sense to me, but I feel comfortable cherry-picking the principles I put any stock into.

Originally Posted by ladyislingering (Post 1586429)

Have you ever worked in retail? :laughing: