John Wilkes Booth

i'm not sure. not that i know of.

Chula Vista

These days there's at least one in every town. We have 3 all within a couple of miles from our house.

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on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

John Wilkes Booth

honestly it comes across to me like they like other dogs. they just get excited whenever they see one

Frownland

You could also go to a baseball or soccer field nearby that isn't being used and let them run around or play fetch with them there. It'll take care of the fleeing situation since most of those fields have fences. That's what my family and I used to do when we didn't have fences for our three dogs who were rather fond of running off. We ended up building an enclosure for them.

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John Wilkes Booth

i will google to look for one. but right now i live in the middle of nowhere

John Wilkes Booth

so let me ask a question to you guys just for the sake of argument... are invisible fences inhumane to you too? and if not then why not if bark collars are?

Chula Vista

Applying electric shocks to control an animal is f*cked up no matter how it's done.

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“The fact that we live at the bottom of a deep gravity well,
on the surface of a gas covered planet going around a nuclear fireball 90 million miles away
and think this to be normal is obviously some indication of how skewed our perspective tends to be.”

Key

This.

WWWP

I agree with chula that not all bark collars are the same. There are some I would never use and some that I've tried with my dog that worked temporarily. Training a vocal dog to not bark is not as easy as it's made out to be, so you have my sympathy.

John Wilkes Booth

fair enough. do you feel the same way about hitting them?

also, just to backtrack a moment. i didn't mean bleeding heart as a diss. i think it can be a good thing