A reason why people remain religious

Black Francis · 08-17-2014, 12:38 PM

Matt seriously just say you're 13 so we can all go:

"ohhhhhhh, i get it now~"

@Roxy

I luvs u 2.

~~MattMVS7~~ · 08-17-2014, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tore

Matt, you strike me as a kid who's probably watched too many animes. You know nothing of life, and it shows. You should go and live life for a while and then you can review your thoughts when you've actually got some life experience and see if it still makes sense. If they don't, there may be hope for you, and if you still feel the same, well .. then I think you're special only in a negative sense.

If you watch anime, you would know that there are characters (villans). For example, there is a character named 'Vegeta' in the anime Dragonball Z. I am deeply inspired by this character because of his sense of pride and power. To the hell with life itself and what it is. I have learned something very great and awesome from this character and I have embraced that and used that as my attitude in life. I would say this character is very mature (not some spoiled immature brat) and he has the attitude of a ruler and such. Therefore, since I have embraced his attitude, that then makes me the same as him. So, to me, being proud and arrogant is something very awesome and is not what you are thinking of it. So your opinion here that I am just some immature spoiled brat and such is not true at all.

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

Humility for exsample is not letting your ego accept praise for something you did because you felt the need to do. Not telling yourelf you are un worthy of praise.
Again you are confusing ****ty self esteem with humility.

And being knocked down by depression is not the same thing as say your house burning down and you needing to accept help from others when you have always been self reliant.

When you have become so full of pride, (dont confuse that with positive self esteem bc you seem to mix these things up) and arrogance and you get to a place where you realize you are not evetything your ego has lead you to belive THAT is humility.

There is medication for depression, there is not a pill you can take for arrogance, selfishness and pride.

You really just come across like the main characters in Alred Hitchcock' s rope.
I have actually stunned by the arrogance in your statements.

How old are you?

Even if I were to be in a situation where I had to get help from others and even if I were to find out for a fact that, for example, if I were to think that I am the next best composer and found out that I wasn't, that would not change my sense of pride (the inspiration that I have received from anime and the character Vegeta).

Also, I am 25 years old and even if I were 90 years old, I would still have the exact same attitude I have now. Age has nothing to do with who you are as a person--it is yourself that changes who you are or you giving into other people's opinions and allowing that to change who you are. For example, someone who says "Grow up and act your age," if this person were then to do so according to this other person's opinion, it would of either been because he/she personally wanted to, or that he/she has allowed that person's opinion to dictate who he/she should be.

~~John Wilkes Booth~~ · 08-17-2014, 12:52 PM

willing to bet at this point that OP is either insane or trolling.

Black Francis · 08-17-2014, 12:59 PM

Im glad you mentioned Vegeta from Dbz, i luv that guy but it seems you misunderstood his character.

Vegeta pride and arrogance were his downfall, if you watched the Maijin saga where he betrays his own family and friends he doesn't become stronger, he becomes a puppet of his past saiyan arrogance making him weaker not actually stronger that's why at that point of the series Vegeta became a proud fool and a sad story.

eventually he becomes good again and from then on to GT he becomes a good guy.
i mean if you're gonna call him your role model at least analyse his growth as a character cause he himself realised in the series his arrogance and pride were his downfall.

RoxyRollah · 08-17-2014, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MattMVS7

If you watch anime, you would know that there are characters (villans). For example, there is a character named 'Vegeta' in the anime Dragonball Z. I am deeply inspired by this character because of his sense of pride and power. To the hell with life itself and what it is. I have learned something very great and awesome from this character and I have embraced that and used that as my attitude in life. I would say this character is very mature (not some spoiled immature brat) and he has the attitude of a ruler and such. Therefore, since I have embraced his attitude, that then makes me the same as him. So, to me, being proud and arrogant is something very awesome and is not what you are thinking of it. So your opinion here that I am just some immature spoiled brat and such is not true at all.

Even if I were to be in a situation where I had to get help from others and even if I were to find out for a fact that, for example, if I were to think that I am the next best composer and found out that I wasn't, that would not change my sense of pride (the inspiration that I have received from anime and the character Vegeta).

Also, I am 25 years old and even if I were 90 years old, I would still have the exact same attitude I have now. Age has nothing to do with who you are as a person--it is yourself that changes who you are or you giving into other people's opinions and allowing that to change who you are. For example, someone who says "Grow up and act your age," if this person were then to do so according to this other person's opinion, it would of either been because he/she personally wanted to, or that he/she has allowed that person's opinion to dictate who he/she should be.

How have you made it through life with such an egomaniacal outlook? You have a really limited, out look on life, and the human condition. You must live in Nebraska that's it please say that's it. You can't really believe your own bull****.

The Batlord · 08-17-2014, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tore

Matt, you strike me as a kid who's probably watched too many animes. You know nothing of life, and it shows. You should go and live life for a while and then you can review your thoughts when you've actually got some life experience and see if it still makes sense. If they don't, there may be hope for you, and if you still feel the same, well .. then I think you're special only in a negative sense.

Totally true. You can definitely come to some well thought out conclusions about life in general merely by observation and a little bit of thinking, but without the experience to test out your theories they are unreliable. Not to mention the subtle little details and tidbits of knowledge about life, human relationships, yourself, etc that can only be picked up through life experience that you need to come to any real, paradigm-shifting revelations. I've had plenty of time to sit back and watch, and I think the objectivity gained through detachment has given me a perspective that is in some ways more honest than if I was really in the thick of life. I don't have as much of a dog in the fight as many people, so I am not as emotionally invested in a particular point of view (innate arrogance and narcissism aside), but my world view never matures half as quickly as when I'm actually immersed in everyday life.

DwnWthVwls · 08-17-2014, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

Im glad you mentioned Vegeta from Dbz, i luv that guy but it seems you misunderstood his character.

Vegeta pride and arrogance were his downfall, if you watched the Maijin saga where he betrays his own family and friends he doesn't become stronger, he becomes a puppet of his past saiyan arrogance making him weaker not actually stronger that's why at that point of the series Vegeta became a proud fool and a sad story.

eventually he becomes good again and from then on to GT he becomes a good guy.
i mean if you're gonna call him your role model at least analyse his growth as a character cause he himself realised in the series his arrogance and pride were his downfall.

Touche. No many things top beating someone with their own argument. +1 for anime geeks.

HellCell · 08-17-2014, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

I've been on internet forums for a very long time and this might just be the dumbest thread I've ever seen in my entire life. And for that, I congratulate you, MattMVS7.

Eh, I reckon I've seen worse. What do you think of spam threads then eh?

djchameleon · 08-17-2014, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth

willing to bet at this point that OP is either insane or trolling.

It took you to til this point to see the trolling?

Isbjørn · 08-17-2014, 04:05 PM

@OP: I'll just say what people have probably already said, but with a personal twist: People aren't necessarily narcissists with perception issues just because they don't agree with you, that's ridiculous. Some people just genuinely believe in a higher spirit, be it God, Allah, Brahman, Cthulhu or Korrok. Who knows whether they're right or not, but as long as they're not pushy or acting dangerously because of it, we should just let them believe what they want. They also might find relief in thinking that life isn't completely meaningless, or that stuff doesn't just stop after death. I'm among them, as I believe in reincarnation, though not influenced by karma (this does not mean I'm not afraid of death, I really am). Just try respecting people's beliefs and know that they're just as entitled to their opinions as you are.

08-17-2014, 12:38 PM	#41 (permalink)
Black Francis Out of Place Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: in an abstract house Posts: 4,111	Matt seriously just say you're 13 so we can all go: "ohhhhhhh, i get it now~" @Roxy I luvs u 2. __________________ "Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A

08-17-2014, 12:59 PM	#44 (permalink)
Black Francis Out of Place Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: in an abstract house Posts: 4,111	Im glad you mentioned Vegeta from Dbz, i luv that guy but it seems you misunderstood his character. Vegeta pride and arrogance were his downfall, if you watched the Maijin saga where he betrays his own family and friends he doesn't become stronger, he becomes a puppet of his past saiyan arrogance making him weaker not actually stronger that's why at that point of the series Vegeta became a proud fool and a sad story. eventually he becomes good again and from then on to GT he becomes a good guy. i mean if you're gonna call him your role model at least analyse his growth as a character cause he himself realised in the series his arrogance and pride were his downfall. __________________ "Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A

08-17-2014, 04:05 PM	#50 (permalink)
Isbjørn cooler commie than elph Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In a hole, help Posts: 2,811	@OP: I'll just say what people have probably already said, but with a personal twist: People aren't necessarily narcissists with perception issues just because they don't agree with you, that's ridiculous. Some people just genuinely believe in a higher spirit, be it God, Allah, Brahman, Cthulhu or Korrok. Who knows whether they're right or not, but as long as they're not pushy or acting dangerously because of it, we should just let them believe what they want. They also might find relief in thinking that life isn't completely meaningless, or that stuff doesn't just stop after death. I'm among them, as I believe in reincarnation, though not influenced by karma (this does not mean I'm not afraid of death, I really am). Just try respecting people's beliefs and know that they're just as entitled to their opinions as you are. __________________ fast(ml) Hear me play the guitar Look, mom! I got a journal

08-17-2014, 12:52 PM	#43 (permalink)
~~John Wilkes Booth~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,235	willing to bet at this point that OP is either insane or trolling.