A reason why people remain religious

Guybrush · 08-17-2014, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

It all depends on the situation and also the disposition of the person being called a "moron." While it might be hard to ignore one can also reason away the insult to make it ineffective. There something juvenile and/or mean-spirited about someone calling another person "moron" or any other pejorative. The name-caller really isn't proving any thing through reasoning with an explanation to show that he has a better point of view on the matter. The name-caller is just hurling names to get an emotional response. The name-caller is trading reasoning for vindictiveness.

It doesn't really depend on the situation. The point I was making is that we're social beings. That's programmed into us. If you are a healthy, normal human being and you are all alone in your life, you would feel lonely and that would gnaw at you. You could have all the riches in the world and your life would still feel like it's missing something.

Social interactions form a very basic need for us and without it, we are less happy. That means we are reliant on others, hence it matters what others think of us. You can do your best to rise above this with reasoning, but you can't just opt out because it's in your very being. Someone calling you a moron is still gonna trigger some stress in you, even if you use reasoning and training to keep that stress to a minimum.

~~MattMVS7~~ · 08-17-2014, 11:07 AM

So I see that some people are fine with being inferior beings. But there are people here (including me) who, again, can not stand being a lesser person in any sense (whether it be through humility, through the perspective of this universe in that we have no grand special purpose and are not that special, etc.) and wish to have a sense of superiority through self-empowerment and grandeur and wish to have power and control in their lives. It's like I said, humility is utterly inferior since it demeans yourself (views yourself as not that great or special) and should not even exist and should be exterminated from existence. Pride is the real and ultimate "power" of self here.

I will now quote one of my posts that points out my reasonings for why having a sense of self-empowerment and grandeur makes you the better person. See if you are fine now with your inferior self and life and wish to become someone greater after reading what I have to say here. But if you are still fine anyway even after reading this, then so be it:

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Originally Posted by Mozart Link' pid='626874' dateline='1408235178

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Originally Posted by Baruch' pid='626848' dateline='1408232547

Some questions for Mozart....

1. Why are you so "special" ? What makes you "special" ?

2. Why are you more special than other people ?

3. What does being special mean to you ?

4. Why do you have to be "given" specialness by a God rather than just creating a meaningful life based on evidence based reasoning ?

5. Is a schizophrenic "special" who believes he is the Jesus reincarnate ?

6. Is someone who contributes to society, discovers new scientific theories & philosophical concepts and makes practical breakthrough's in various fields but doesn't consider themselves as "cosmically special" still "special" just as a human being who dies with no afterlife ?

7. So why is an afterlife so "special" even if there was evidence for such a thing (which there isn't any)

1.) The fact that I think I'm special is what makes me special based on all of my arguments here. Also, the fact that I give my life personality (meaning and such) by hating the fact that there is no God and afterlife and that there should be based on my own personification of life is another thing that makes me special.

2.) I'm more special than people who don't value themselves that much and don't think they're all that special because, unlike these people, I have found my own path of self-empowerment in life and such and have taken matters into my own hands in bestowing myself with this "power" and have not demeaned myself (viewed myself as not all that great and special) unlike these people have.

3.) Being special, to me, means all of the reasons I just stated above.

4.) If there were another universe of god-like immortal beings with perfect lives and such and can overcome any suffering, they would obviously look down upon this universe as inferior since it is a universe that is the opposite. In a sense, I am one of these god-like beings who embraces the universe of anime and god-like anime characters and adds the awesome personification of that god-like anime universe in looking down upon this pathetic universe.

5.) A schizophrenic would be more special.

6.) This person has demeaned his/herself by viewing his/herself as not all that great and special and not giving his/herself this "power" of enlightenment that I've described. Therefore, based on this and all of my reasonings here, this person would not be special.

7.) An afterlife is important (for me anyway) because I am someone who embraces the awesome personality of god-like anime and, with this "higher" personality that I've obtained, it becomes a part of this life. Therefore, from this perception of life, I feel that an afterlife in which you are god-like, immortal, and perfect is very important to me because that would accomplish what this newly obtained personality and perception desires so much.

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Originally Posted by Baruch' pid='626850' dateline='1408232855

Really ?
So if some ISIS Sunni militant finds empowerment in Beheading Yazidis, that's their life strength and own path of whatever they want which makes them feel special - its all perfectly fine and we shouldn't give a **** & not care what others think ????

You should care only if you want to.

RoxyRollah · 08-17-2014, 11:28 AM

Im sorry how do figure humility is demeaning?

It's a very attractive quality in another human being. You are confusing poor self esteem and humilty.And quite frankly it's funny to watch. Because instead of sounding ahead of your time, or like a free thinking person.You come across as a megalomaniac, that has a library card or acess to a computer.

One day brother you may find yourself in a situation where you are knocked down into the basement of where you thought you were in life and you will ultimately learn what the definition of true humility is.

Until then, you sound like one of the most uneducated people I think I have EVER heard in my life.

~~MattMVS7~~ · 08-17-2014, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

Im sorry how do figure humility is demeaning?

It's a very attractive quality in another human being. You are confusing poor self esteem and humilty.And quite frankly it's funny to watch. Because instead of sounding ahead of your time, or like a free thinking person.You come across as a megalomaniac, that has a library card or acess to a computer.

One day brother you may find yourself in a situation where you are knocked down into the basement of where you thought you were in life and you will ultimately learn what the definition of true humility is.

Until then, you sound like one of the most uneducated people I think I have EVER heard in my life.

I am severely knocked down now with depression and anhedonia (emotional numbness) and I can be knocked down with any event in my life, but the only thing that matters to me is maintaining my sense of superiority, self-empowerment, etc. in life and never having humility regardless of what hardship I am going through in life.

As for how humility is demeaning, just by giving yourself the message that you are not all that great and special is demeaning in itself regardless of who you are as a person and regardless of how much you help others and such.

The Batlord · 08-17-2014, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MattMVS7

So I see that some people are fine with being inferior beings. But there are people here (including me) who, again, can not stand being a lesser person in any sense (whether it be through humility, through the perspective of this universe in that we have no grand special purpose and are not that special, etc.) and wish to have a sense of superiority through self-empowerment and grandeur and wish to have power and control in their lives. It's like I said, humility is utterly inferior since it demeans yourself (views yourself as not that great or special) and should not even exist and should be exterminated from existence. Pride is the real and ultimate "power" of self here.

I will now quote one of my posts that points out my reasonings for why having a sense of self-empowerment and grandeur makes you the better person. See if you are fine now with your inferior self and life and wish to become someone greater after reading what I have to say here. But if you are still fine anyway even after reading this, then so be it:

Well, whatever religion you practice you sure as hell aren't a Christian.

Guybrush · 08-17-2014, 12:13 PM

Matt, you strike me as a kid who's probably watched too many animes. You know nothing of life, and it shows. You should go and live life for a while and then you can review your thoughts when you've actually got some life experience and see if it still makes sense. If they don't, there may be hope for you, and if you still feel the same, well .. then I think you're special only in a negative sense.

RoxyRollah · 08-17-2014, 12:17 PM

Humility for exsample is not letting your ego accept praise for something you did because you felt the need to do. Not telling yourelf you are un worthy of praise.
Again you are confusing ****ty self esteem with humility.

And being knocked down by depression is not the same thing as say your house burning down and you needing to accept help from others when you have always been self reliant.

When you have become so full of pride, (dont confuse that with positive self esteem bc you seem to mix these things up) and arrogance and you get to a place where you realize you are not evetything your ego has lead you to belive THAT is humility.

There is medication for depression, there is not a pill you can take for arrogance, selfishness and pride.

You really just come across like the main characters in Alred Hitchcock' s rope.
I have actually stunned by the arrogance in your statements.

How old are you?

Black Francis · 08-17-2014, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MattMVS7

I am severely knocked down now with depression and anhedonia (emotional numbness) and I can be knocked down with any event in my life, but the only thing that matters to me is maintaining my sense of superiority, self-empowerment, etc. in life and never having humility regardless of what hardship I am going through in life.

As for how humility is demeaning, just by giving yourself the message that you are not all that great and special is demeaning in itself regardless of who you are as a person and regardless of how much you help others and such.

i think that's wrong a little self doubt and humility are healthy for a well balanced personality.
it keeps you humble and nobody likes a one dimensional arrogant assh*le who can never admit he is wrong cause you can't rationalize with ppl like that.

RoxyRollah · 08-17-2014, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Well, whatever religion you practice you sure as hell aren't a Christian.

And @Tore you sir just pin pointed it.:clapping:

Edit:I love you BF.

YorkeDaddy · 08-17-2014, 12:29 PM

I've been on internet forums for a very long time and this might just be the dumbest thread I've ever seen in my entire life. And for that, I congratulate you, MattMVS7.

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Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	Matt, you strike me as a kid who's probably watched too many animes. You know nothing of life, and it shows. You should go and live life for a while and then you can review your thoughts when you've actually got some life experience and see if it still makes sense. If they don't, there may be hope for you, and if you still feel the same, well .. then I think you're special only in a negative sense. __________________ Something Completely Different