A reason why people remain religious

GuD · 08-16-2014, 07:28 PM

Matt, buddy...

You're kind of a dumbass dude.

Take it from a fellow dumbass, you're a dumbass. Quit actin like ya know it all, s'quite the opposite bro

ladyislingering · 08-16-2014, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MattMVS7

People who think they are special and such apply that perception to life itself and conclude that life itself must also be something special and meant for them. For example, someone who thinks "I am a very helpful and caring special person" might then conclude that this life must then be something special as well and offers a special "higher" reward for who they are as a person (a God and an afterlife). They are not willing to either accept that this is not the case and no longer complain about it, or they still insist on believing that there is a God and an afterlife anyway. I feel that the reason such people believe in such things anyway despite much scientific evidence is because they are just too much of a human being (someone great and special) to, again, possibly stoop so low as to believe or accept otherwise.

Sounds just like my mother, who became a "born again" Christian about 10 years ago. She's got problems like you wouldn't believe. Physically disabled to the point where she can't walk unassisted, just got diagnosed with spinal arthritis, had her gallbladder removed recently due to an aneurysm, struggling with anorexia (like daughter like mother) and she's getting a little senile but OH JESUS. JESUS CHRIST IS HER SAVIOR. HER LAWD. OH LAWDY LAWD IN HEAVEN JESUS WILL FIX US ALL.

I don't swear when I text/call my mother because she is so Christian. I live almost 2,000 miles away from her and I will absolutely not offend her like that because she will never let me hear the end of it. Her life is miserable as hell but apparently it's ALL GOOD because she's got JESUS CHRIST.

I just... I don't understand. Good on her for trying to cope with the fact that her life sucks but I can't help but feel like extreme Christianity is some sort of mental illness.

RoxyRollah · 08-17-2014, 10:28 AM

Im sorry how do figure humility is demeaning?

It's a very attractive quality in another human being. You are confusing poor self esteem and humilty.And quite frankly it's funny to watch. Because instead of sounding ahead of your time, or like a free thinking person.You come across as a megalomaniac, that has a library card or acess to a computer.

One day brother you may find yourself in a situation where you are knocked down into the basement of where you thought you were in life and you will ultimately learn what the definition of true humility is.

Until then, you sound like one of the most uneducated people I think I have EVER heard in my life.

~~MattMVS7~~ · 08-17-2014, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

Im sorry how do figure humility is demeaning?

It's a very attractive quality in another human being. You are confusing poor self esteem and humilty.And quite frankly it's funny to watch. Because instead of sounding ahead of your time, or like a free thinking person.You come across as a megalomaniac, that has a library card or acess to a computer.

One day brother you may find yourself in a situation where you are knocked down into the basement of where you thought you were in life and you will ultimately learn what the definition of true humility is.

Until then, you sound like one of the most uneducated people I think I have EVER heard in my life.

I am severely knocked down now with depression and anhedonia (emotional numbness) and I can be knocked down with any event in my life, but the only thing that matters to me is maintaining my sense of superiority, self-empowerment, etc. in life and never having humility regardless of what hardship I am going through in life.

As for how humility is demeaning, just by giving yourself the message that you are not all that great and special is demeaning in itself regardless of who you are as a person and regardless of how much you help others and such.

Black Francis · 08-17-2014, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MattMVS7

I am severely knocked down now with depression and anhedonia (emotional numbness) and I can be knocked down with any event in my life, but the only thing that matters to me is maintaining my sense of superiority, self-empowerment, etc. in life and never having humility regardless of what hardship I am going through in life.

As for how humility is demeaning, just by giving yourself the message that you are not all that great and special is demeaning in itself regardless of who you are as a person and regardless of how much you help others and such.

i think that's wrong a little self doubt and humility are healthy for a well balanced personality.
it keeps you humble and nobody likes a one dimensional arrogant assh*le who can never admit he is wrong cause you can't rationalize with ppl like that.

Guybrush · 08-17-2014, 11:13 AM

Matt, you strike me as a kid who's probably watched too many animes. You know nothing of life, and it shows. You should go and live life for a while and then you can review your thoughts when you've actually got some life experience and see if it still makes sense. If they don't, there may be hope for you, and if you still feel the same, well .. then I think you're special only in a negative sense.

~~MattMVS7~~ · 08-17-2014, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by tore

Matt, you strike me as a kid who's probably watched too many animes. You know nothing of life, and it shows. You should go and live life for a while and then you can review your thoughts when you've actually got some life experience and see if it still makes sense. If they don't, there may be hope for you, and if you still feel the same, well .. then I think you're special only in a negative sense.

If you watch anime, you would know that there are characters (villans). For example, there is a character named 'Vegeta' in the anime Dragonball Z. I am deeply inspired by this character because of his sense of pride and power. To the hell with life itself and what it is. I have learned something very great and awesome from this character and I have embraced that and used that as my attitude in life. I would say this character is very mature (not some spoiled immature brat) and he has the attitude of a ruler and such. Therefore, since I have embraced his attitude, that then makes me the same as him. So, to me, being proud and arrogant is something very awesome and is not what you are thinking of it. So your opinion here that I am just some immature spoiled brat and such is not true at all.

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Originally Posted by RoxyRollah

Humility for exsample is not letting your ego accept praise for something you did because you felt the need to do. Not telling yourelf you are un worthy of praise.
Again you are confusing ****ty self esteem with humility.

And being knocked down by depression is not the same thing as say your house burning down and you needing to accept help from others when you have always been self reliant.

When you have become so full of pride, (dont confuse that with positive self esteem bc you seem to mix these things up) and arrogance and you get to a place where you realize you are not evetything your ego has lead you to belive THAT is humility.

There is medication for depression, there is not a pill you can take for arrogance, selfishness and pride.

You really just come across like the main characters in Alred Hitchcock' s rope.
I have actually stunned by the arrogance in your statements.

How old are you?

Even if I were to be in a situation where I had to get help from others and even if I were to find out for a fact that, for example, if I were to think that I am the next best composer and found out that I wasn't, that would not change my sense of pride (the inspiration that I have received from anime and the character Vegeta).

Also, I am 25 years old and even if I were 90 years old, I would still have the exact same attitude I have now. Age has nothing to do with who you are as a person--it is yourself that changes who you are or you giving into other people's opinions and allowing that to change who you are. For example, someone who says "Grow up and act your age," if this person were then to do so according to this other person's opinion, it would of either been because he/she personally wanted to, or that he/she has allowed that person's opinion to dictate who he/she should be.

RoxyRollah · 08-17-2014, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MattMVS7

If you watch anime, you would know that there are characters (villans). For example, there is a character named 'Vegeta' in the anime Dragonball Z. I am deeply inspired by this character because of his sense of pride and power. To the hell with life itself and what it is. I have learned something very great and awesome from this character and I have embraced that and used that as my attitude in life. I would say this character is very mature (not some spoiled immature brat) and he has the attitude of a ruler and such. Therefore, since I have embraced his attitude, that then makes me the same as him. So, to me, being proud and arrogant is something very awesome and is not what you are thinking of it. So your opinion here that I am just some immature spoiled brat and such is not true at all.

Even if I were to be in a situation where I had to get help from others and even if I were to find out for a fact that, for example, if I were to think that I am the next best composer and found out that I wasn't, that would not change my sense of pride (the inspiration that I have received from anime and the character Vegeta).

Also, I am 25 years old and even if I were 90 years old, I would still have the exact same attitude I have now. Age has nothing to do with who you are as a person--it is yourself that changes who you are or you giving into other people's opinions and allowing that to change who you are. For example, someone who says "Grow up and act your age," if this person were then to do so according to this other person's opinion, it would of either been because he/she personally wanted to, or that he/she has allowed that person's opinion to dictate who he/she should be.

How have you made it through life with such an egomaniacal outlook? You have a really limited, out look on life, and the human condition. You must live in Nebraska that's it please say that's it. You can't really believe your own bull****.

Guybrush · 08-17-2014, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MattMVS7

If you watch anime, you would know that there are characters (villans). For example, there is a character named 'Vegeta' in the anime Dragonball Z. I am deeply inspired by this character because of his sense of pride and power. To the hell with life itself and what it is. I have learned something very great and awesome from this character and I have embraced that and used that as my attitude in life. I would say this character is very mature (not some spoiled immature brat) and he has the attitude of a ruler and such. Therefore, since I have embraced his attitude, that then makes me the same as him. So, to me, being proud and arrogant is something very awesome and is not what you are thinking of it. So your opinion here that I am just some immature spoiled brat and such is not true at all.

Even if I were to be in a situation where I had to get help from others and even if I were to find out for a fact that, for example, if I were to think that I am the next best composer and found out that I wasn't, that would not change my sense of pride (the inspiration that I have received from anime and the character Vegeta).

Also, I am 25 years old and even if I were 90 years old, I would still have the exact same attitude I have now. Age has nothing to do with who you are as a person--it is yourself that changes who you are or you giving into other people's opinions and allowing that to change who you are. For example, someone who says "Grow up and act your age," if this person were then to do so according to this other person's opinion, it would of either been because he/she personally wanted to, or that he/she has allowed that person's opinion to dictate who he/she should be.

This is the funniest post I've read all day

Thanks for confirming my hypothesis, Matt.

Stay awesome!

Isbjørn · 08-17-2014, 03:18 PM

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This is the funniest post I've read all day

Thanks for confirming my hypothesis, Matt.

Stay awesome!

Holy crap, your post count. It's kewl.

08-16-2014, 07:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
GuD Dude... What? Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 1,322	Matt, buddy... You're kind of a dumbass dude. Take it from a fellow dumbass, you're a dumbass. Quit actin like ya know it all, s'quite the opposite bro __________________ I spit bullets in my feet Every time I speak So I write instead And still people want me dead ~msc

08-17-2014, 11:13 AM	#6 (permalink)
Guybrush Juicious Maximus III Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Scabb Island Posts: 6,525	Matt, you strike me as a kid who's probably watched too many animes. You know nothing of life, and it shows. You should go and live life for a while and then you can review your thoughts when you've actually got some life experience and see if it still makes sense. If they don't, there may be hope for you, and if you still feel the same, well .. then I think you're special only in a negative sense. __________________ Something Completely Different