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Old 08-16-2014, 09:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Atheist attitudes to death in a nutshell - "There is literally no way to experience whatever horrors your religion has told you exist after death. Why would we worry about it?"
I think it's a more peaceful state of mind to not be worried about eternal suffering. I'm going to die someday. You're going to die someday. You and I are dramatically different in many ways, but we'll both come to ashes or rot into bones. We are just human remains. Why should we care when we're going to die if it's unavoidable? Why not enjoy the thought that there is no suffering after death, especially if in many instances, suffering comes before death? I'd rather know that I'll feel nothing when I'm dead than to fear that Jesus will snark at my tattoos and damn me to hell.
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I think it's a more peaceful state of mind to not be worried about eternal suffering. I'm going to die someday. You're going to die someday. You and I are dramatically different in many ways, but we'll both come to ashes or rot into bones. We are just human remains. Why should we care when we're going to die if it's unavoidable? Why not enjoy the thought that there is no suffering after death, especially if in many instances, suffering comes before death? I'd rather know that I'll feel nothing when I'm dead than to fear that Jesus will snark at my tattoos and damn me to hell.
Cause **** death, that's why. I put time into wondering about how interstellar space travel will be accomplished and you're telling me that I'll almost certainly never get to find out? That's ****ing bull****. I don't get why a lot of atheists are so cavalier about death. If I'm in a coma then keep me alive as long as possible. I don't give a **** if I'm brain dead. I'll be a ****ing vegetable living on a respirator. In all likelihood I'll either be completely unconscious, or dreaming. Either way it's all good and I'm perfectly happy to lay there and wait for somebody to find a cure for whatever is wrong with me. And if that doesn't pan out then cut my head off and cryogenically freeze that bitch. I don't play with none of that ****ing death ****.

You people better hope I don't find out some way to sacrifice you to Satan for eternal life.
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There is only one bright spot and that is the growing habit of disgruntled men of dynamiting factories and power-stations; I hope that, encouraged now as ‘patriotism’, may remain a habit! But it won’t do any good, if it is not universal.
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Old 08-17-2014, 12:12 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Cause **** death, that's why. I put time into wondering about how interstellar space travel will be accomplished and you're telling me that I'll almost certainly never get to find out? That's ****ing bull****. I don't get why a lot of atheists are so cavalier about death. If I'm in a coma then keep me alive as long as possible. I don't give a **** if I'm brain dead. I'll be a ****ing vegetable living on a respirator. In all likelihood I'll either be completely unconscious, or dreaming. Either way it's all good and I'm perfectly happy to lay there and wait for somebody to find a cure for whatever is wrong with me. And if that doesn't pan out then cut my head off and cryogenically freeze that bitch. I don't play with none of that ****ing death ****.

You people better hope I don't find out some way to sacrifice you to Satan for eternal life.
Not to mention, the ultimate mockery of all which is that, in the future, they might find a way to become immortal and eliminate many types of suffering (diseases and such). Everyone in the future might live a nice life of immortality while you and everyone else are "unfortunate" in that you will not only live lives of suffering and possible disease, but will die and remain dead in the end after all that suffering and no special reward for that suffering in the end. All of it was for nothing in the end. One might have the attitude of "At least I did my best in life" or that "At least I've helped others suffering," but even that will be all for nothing in the end because when you are dead, the fact that you made the best of your life would no longer matter and also that anyone you've inspired or helped in life--they will just die in the end as well. No, it doesn't matter how much of a person you are and what your desires are in life, this pathetic universe considers you "unfortunate" and, for that very reason, you are going to suffer and die and remain dead. Therefore, this is one of the main reason why I consider this life a pathetic joke and an utter mockery to us as human beings. This is why I wish I instead wasn't an atheist and believed there was a God and an afterlife of immortality and eternal joy.

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Not to mention, the ultimate mockery of all which is that, in the future, they might find a way to become immortal and eliminate many types of suffering (diseases and such). Everyone in the future might live a nice life of immortality while you and everyone else are "unfortunate" in that you will not only live lives of suffering and possible disease, but will die and remain dead in the end after all that suffering and no special reward for that suffering in the end. All of it was for nothing in the end. One might have the attitude of "At least I did my best in life" or that "At least I've helped others suffering," but even that will be all for nothing in the end because when you are dead, the fact that you made the best of your life would no longer matter and also that anyone you've inspired or helped in life--they will just die in the end as well. No, it doesn't matter how much of a person you are and what your desires are in life, this pathetic universe considers you "unfortunate" and, for that very reason, you are going to suffer and die and remain dead. Therefore, this is one of the main reason why I consider this life a pathetic joke and an utter mockery to us as human beings. This is why I wish I instead wasn't an atheist and believed there was a God and an afterlife of immortality and eternal joy.
Don't get me started. It's galling when I hear theories that maybe even a few decades after I'm dead they might finally get the technology to keep people living forever, and I get the shaft simply because I was born a few years too early. Life has been on this Earth for two billion years. The odds that I will have been born this close, but no cigar, on a two billion year timeline, has got to make Vegas odds look like a sure thing.

I as well look at life as a cruel joke. I can certainly find my own meaning and happiness in it with a little imagination, but the hilarity of human existence is still surreal. After all these years I'm just so used to seeing all of this madness that I'm pretty desensitized to it, so I am apathetically amused by it more than angry for the most part these days. I feel no need to reach for philosophies and religions that I don't believe in, since that desperate search for meaning in the face of meaninglessness when it comes at the expense of rationality is just another of life's jokes.
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Don't get me started. It's galling when I hear theories that maybe even a few decades after I'm dead they might finally get the technology to keep people living forever, and I get the shaft simply because I was born a few years too early. Life has been on this Earth for two billion years. The odds that I will have been born this close, but no cigar, on a two billion year timeline, has got to make Vegas odds look like a sure thing.
It could very well happen in your lifetime, given closer to the end. It depends on if these nanobots circulating throughout our body are producible within the next 50 years. I'll try to find the tedtalks about it later.

Most of the people who are spouting immortality are futurists with not much expertise when it comes to the human body. Futurists believe immortality will happen within the next twenty years, whilst on the other hand the national cancer society predicts common cancers being treated until 2050's.

If you want to be immortal I suggest getting very wealthy within the two decades.
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It could very well happen in your lifetime, given closer to the end. It depends on if these nanobots circulating throughout our body are producible within the next 50 years. I'll try to find the tedtalks about it later.

Most of the people who are spouting immortality are futurists with not much expertise when it comes to the human body. Futurists believe immortality will happen within the next twenty years, whilst on the other hand the national cancer society predicts common cancers being treated until 2050's.

If you want to be immortal I suggest getting very wealthy within the two decades.
I'm not holding my breath. Within the next hundred years I could buy, but if it comes earlier than fifty I'd be pretty surprised. Of course we were also supposed to have hover cars by the year 2000, so even conservative estimates are pretty dubious as far as I'm concerned.
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I'm not holding my breath. Within the next hundred years I could buy, but if it comes earlier than fifty I'd be pretty surprised. Of course we were also supposed to have hover cars by the year 2000, so even conservative estimates are pretty dubious as far as I'm concerned.
I hear ya.

Honestly for me to reach middle age would be a feat. Of all the things that could possibly kill me; if I'm in good shape by then I like my chances a lot more.

To be textbook "healthy" I would have to excercise every couple hours, sleep straight through the night 7-8 hours uninterrupted. Drink 8 glasses of water, a glass of milk(though dairy consumption is questionable-so maybe a oral vitamin D supplement in the wintertime-but vitamins effectiveness has proved misleading)eat 4 servings of fruit and vegetables per day,eat maybe 25 grams of protein in the form of fish and get "1/4 the time it takes for me to get sunburnt" worth of sunlight per day. This is all in conjunction with a stress free life as well. I'd have to practice quality breathing and stretching.
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