Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? (Post 1479251)

I get happy every time I scratch my balls so by your definition the more I scratch my balls the more superior I am?

Originally Posted by MattMVS7 (Post 1479250)

Here is a revised version of the message I was trying to get across in the previous post I just made:

To start off, you might be thinking that people who no longer believe in a God and an afterlife and complain about it are the people to be regarded as weak, immature, etc. when it is actually the exact opposite. The reason many people are whiny is that they are too much of a human being (someone great) to possibly accept that there is no God and afterlife and no longer complain about it or to no longer believe that there is a God and afterlife. They add their own personification as a human being and as someone great to reality itself and this is why they either whine that there is no God or afterlife or still believe that there is a God and an afterlife. In short, people who whine that there is no God or afterlife or who actually believe there is a God and an afterlife are the better people who have a sense of higher purpose/self to possibly stoop so low as to either, again, accept that there is no God and afterlife and not complain, or to no longer believe that there is a God and an afterlife. This sense of higher life and higher self that these people have (that they are special and that this life is special and intended for them or that, at least, they complain that it isn't and that it should be that way anyway), this is what makes these people special and "higher" (great).

Although atheists can still achieve a sense of greatness and being someone special, the fact of the matter is that they are restricted from true greatness as I've just explained since they have stooped so low into a world where, in reality, they are not that great or special as to deserve a God and an afterlife and that this life is not something special in the sense that it was intended for them and such. It doesn't matter how great and special you think you are if you are an atheist, to realize that, in reality, you are not great and special in this universe is demeaning of yourself because just by giving yourself the message that you are not that great and special, this is demeaning of you as a human being and that is what makes you a lesser person. Therefore, this is why people who have a sense of higher self and such who either complain that there is no God and afterlife or who still arrogantly believe there is a God and afterlife anyway despite much scientific evidence are the better people.

Originally Posted by MattMVS7 (Post 1479250)

Here is a revised version of the message I was trying to get across in the previous post I just made:

To start off, you might be thinking that people who no longer believe in a God and an afterlife and complain about it are the people to be regarded as weak, immature, etc. when it is actually the exact opposite. The reason many people are whiny is that they are too much of a human being (someone great) to possibly accept that there is no God and afterlife and no longer complain about it or to no longer believe that there is a God and afterlife. They add their own personification as a human being and as someone great to reality itself and this is why they either whine that there is no God or afterlife or still believe that there is a God and an afterlife. In short, people who whine that there is no God or afterlife or who actually believe there is a God and an afterlife are the better people who have a sense of higher purpose/self to possibly stoop so low as to either, again, accept that there is no God and afterlife and not complain, or to no longer believe that there is a God and an afterlife. This sense of higher life and higher self that these people have (that they are special and that this life is special and intended for them or that, at least, they complain that it isn't and that it should be that way anyway), this is what makes these people special and "higher" (great).

Although atheists can still achieve a sense of greatness and being someone special, the fact of the matter is that they are restricted from true greatness as I've just explained since they have stooped so low into a world where, in reality, they are not that great or special as to deserve a God and an afterlife and that this life is not something special in the sense that it was intended for them and such. It doesn't matter how great and special you think you are if you are an atheist, to realize that, in reality, you are not great and special in this universe is demeaning of yourself because just by giving yourself the message that you are not that great and special, this is demeaning of you as a human being and that is what makes you a lesser person. Therefore, this is why people who have a sense of higher self and such who either complain that there is no God and afterlife or who still arrogantly believe there is a God and afterlife anyway despite much scientific evidence are the better people.

Originally Posted by MattMVS7 (Post 1479250)

Here is a revised version of the message I was trying to get across in the previous post I just made:

To start off, you might be thinking that people who no longer believe in a God and an afterlife and complain about it are the people to be regarded as weak, immature, etc. when it is actually the exact opposite. The reason many people are whiny is that they are too much of a human being (someone great) to possibly accept that there is no God and afterlife and no longer complain about it or to no longer believe that there is a God and afterlife. They add their own personification as a human being and as someone great to reality itself and this is why they either whine that there is no God or afterlife or still believe that there is a God and an afterlife. In short, people who whine that there is no God or afterlife or who actually believe there is a God and an afterlife are the better people who have a sense of higher purpose/self to possibly stoop so low as to either, again, accept that there is no God and afterlife and not complain, or to no longer believe that there is a God and an afterlife. This sense of higher life and higher self that these people have (that they are special and that this life is special and intended for them or that, at least, they complain that it isn't and that it should be that way anyway), this is what makes these people special and "higher" (great).

Although atheists can still achieve a sense of greatness and being someone special, the fact of the matter is that they are restricted from true greatness as I've just explained since they have stooped so low into a world where, in reality, they are not that great or special as to deserve a God and an afterlife and that this life is not something special in the sense that it was intended for them and such. It doesn't matter how great and special you think you are if you are an atheist, to realize that, in reality, you are not great and special in this universe is demeaning of yourself because just by giving yourself the message that you are not that great and special, this is demeaning of you as a human being and that is what makes you a lesser person. Therefore, this is why people who have a sense of higher self and such who either complain that there is no God and afterlife or who still arrogantly believe there is a God and afterlife anyway despite much scientific evidence are the better people.

Originally Posted by MattMVS7 (Post 1479121)

So even if you were a psychopath and killed many people, as long as you have all the pleasure in the world, that would make you a far better and superior person than if you were someone who is depressed and emotionally numb and helped and cared for other people.

Originally Posted by MattMVS7 (Post 1479121)

Although I am an atheist, I view pleasure as the most important thing in life (and even pleasure obtained from the belief of there being a God and an afterlife). I am going to present an argument here as to why I believe that both pleasure as well as pleasure from this belief makes you better and superior to people who are atheists who are depressed and emotionally numb.

Being alive is superior to being dead as long as you have pleasure. Therefore, since pleasure is emotional life, that makes it superior to being numb (emotionally dead) in which you have nothing more than mere thoughts and duty in life. Pleasure is the absolute and defining life force of "living" and a living thing that defines you as a living person and is what makes you a better and superior person because anyone would know just how good of a experience pleasure is and how much it makes life worth living and is the only thing to me that makes life worth living.

So even if you were a psychopath and killed many people, as long as you have all the pleasure in the world, that would make you a far better and superior person than if you were someone who is depressed and emotionally numb and helped and cared for other people. As for happy selfish people in life who think they are better than everyone else, their happiness is what makes them better than everyone else regardless of how selfish and cruel they are. Their happiness is what makes them better than people with no happiness since, as I just stated before, pleasure is the absolute defining life force of a human being and is the only thing that makes your life worth living and allows you to make the best of your life. This also goes for what I'm about to say below which is that regardless of who you are and such and regardless of how much you help others, you would still be nothing but an inferior biological functioning machine without pleasure which is what makes people who have all the pleasure in the world better and superior regardless of how cruel and such these people are.

Happy people are also better and superior since they at least get to die happy (and perhaps with even more happiness having the delusional belief in a God and an afterlife of eternal joy). But people who suffer with severe depression or anhedonia (emotional numbness) are inferior since they will likely die hopeless and/or with little to no pleasure (and perhaps with even more hopelessness being atheists who don't believe in a God or an afterlife of eternal joy).

Another convincing argument for the radical reasoning I just made above is that thoughts and such without pleasure are nothing more than any other part of the brain for biological functions (such as parts of the brain responsible for movement, breathing, etc.). But pleasure is your emotional well-being here and is the only thing that makes your life worth living and is the only thing that allows you to make the best of your life. So this is why I come to the conclusion that living your life through pleasure (even if you were a psychopath) would be the only best thing here in this situation as opposed to living your life feeling numb and depressed and helping others being nothing more than mere biological functions (thoughts and actions). It would be better for you as a person because you would, again, be nothing more than mere biological functioning without pleasure regardless of how much you chose to help others and regardless of how much these helped individuals look up to you and admire you. They would have a pleasurable sense of high value and worth towards you, but you will not even be allowed to have a pleasurable sense of value and worth towards yourself in helping others and in them admiring and looking up to you.

But, however, it would be better for other people if you chose not to be the psychopath and instead chose to be numb and depressed and help other people. So even if you did choose to become the lesser (nothing) person with nothing more than mere biological functions, you would be able to help other people suffering which is obviously a great thing.

As for trying to make the best of your life and helping others and such having no pleasure (being nothing more than biological functioning), I would unfortunately have to say good luck on that. You will soon find that you are nothing as a person without pleasure regardless of how much you help others, regardless of who you are as a person and what your attitude is in life, and no matter what you do in life. You would find that life is completely worthless. As a result, you would then go to drastic measures to try and get your pleasure back such as electric convulsive therapy and wishing that you would rather be in a hospital bed with cancer and many other horrible things to happen to you at the same time--as long as it meant having your pleasure back.

Also, let's pretend that I had no ability to experience pleasure and I wanted advice for this mental illness, people who give such "advice" such as: " I am 53 and have never had pleasure in my life, I am used to it," this is not the type of advice I need as I am an emotionally sensitive human being and not some robot who would be fine living a life without pleasure. Robots are fine living a life without pleasure because that's what they are--emotionally insensitive functioning machines. But I, on the other hand, am an emotionally sensitive human being who would not be fine living a life without pleasure and will never be fine with such a thing because, again, I am a sensitive human being and will forever remain a sensitive human being.

In a way, people who give such "advice" are robots themselves because if they were truly a caring sensitive human being and truly cared for my emotional well-being (pleasure), they would instead offer me hope and comfort that I will once again experience pleasure instead of simply just giving the cold insensitive message of just getting used to it or that "Many people have problems that they have to deal with, so just deal and live with it."

To me, this is not just some personal opinion--it is a fact. No matter who you are and no matter what you do in life, that does not change the fact that you are nothing more than biological functioning if you did choose to become the depressed and numb person and help others.

As for me being a sensitive human being, I am sensitive in the sense that I just wish to have my pleasure back, but I am a harsh and strict believer when it comes to hedonism.

Although you can consider me a sensitive human being when it comes to wanting to just have my pleasure back, you can consider me a sort of "drill instructor" when it comes to just how important pleasure is and that without it, you are nothing (nothing more than a maggot as a drill instructor would say regardless of who you are as a person and such if you were in the military). I guess, maybe, you can consider my arguments as a sort of encouragement to regain your ability to experience pleasure in life and to encourage you just how important pleasure (your emotional well-being) is. But if you can't regain your ability to experience pleasure, then you will forever be an inferior human being regardless of how much you did your best in life and such since, again, you would be nothing more than biological functions and that there is nothing in life (including making the best of your life and helping others) that will ever change that.

My arguments are also geared towards an audience who think that pleasure is not that important and that there are more important things in life that define your value as a human being. Again, I do not believe that there are such things because you would, again, still be nothing more than biological functioning without pleasure.

If, let's pretend again, that I were to have no ability to experience pleasure and I were to talk to someone about my inability to experience pleasure and this person were to just simply have little or no value towards my pleasure (emotional well-being) by saying something such as that life is not about pleasure and that there are more important things in life greater than your pleasure, these are opinions that I would absolutely hate which is another reason I have presented my arguments here for pleasure in the event that there are such people so I can at least try to convince them otherwise.

Originally Posted by MattMVS7 (Post 1479250)

Here is a revised version of the message I was trying to get across in the previous post I just made:

To start off, you might be thinking that people who no longer believe in a God and an afterlife and complain about it are the people to be regarded as weak, immature, etc. when it is actually the exact opposite. The reason many people are whiny is that they are too much of a human being (someone great) to possibly accept that there is no God and afterlife and no longer complain about it or to no longer believe that there is a God and afterlife. They add their own personification as a human being and as someone great to reality itself and this is why they either whine that there is no God or afterlife or still believe that there is a God and an afterlife. In short, people who whine that there is no God or afterlife or who actually believe there is a God and an afterlife are the better people who have a sense of higher purpose/self to possibly stoop so low as to either, again, accept that there is no God and afterlife and not complain, or to no longer believe that there is a God and an afterlife. This sense of higher life and higher self that these people have (that they are special and that this life is special and intended for them or that, at least, they complain that it isn't and that it should be that way anyway), this is what makes these people special and "higher" (great).

Although atheists can still achieve a sense of greatness and being someone special, the fact of the matter is that they are restricted from true greatness as I've just explained since they have stooped so low into a world where, in reality, they are not that great or special as to deserve a God and an afterlife and that this life is not something special in the sense that it was intended for them and such. It doesn't matter how great and special you think you are if you are an atheist, to realize that, in reality, you are not great and special in this universe is demeaning of yourself because just by giving yourself the message that you are not that great and special, this is demeaning of you as a human being and that is what makes you a lesser person. Therefore, this is why people who have a sense of higher self and such who either complain that there is no God and afterlife or who still arrogantly believe there is a God and afterlife anyway despite much scientific evidence are the better people.

Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1479291)

Matt, I gotta hand it to you, you scared Batlord. He was my ace in the hole to break down your essay paragraph and paragraph and argue with you...

:( I'm sad now

Originally Posted by MattMVS7 (Post 1479170)

Could someone, for example, quote every paragraph I made and argue your reasonings against them?

Originally Posted by MattMVS7 (Post 1479121)

Although I am an atheist, I view pleasure as the most important thing in life (and even pleasure obtained from the belief of there being a God and an afterlife). I am going to present an argument here as to why I believe that both pleasure as well as pleasure from this belief makes you better and superior to people who are atheists who are depressed and emotionally numb.

Originally Posted by MattMVS7 (Post 1479121)

Being alive is superior to being dead as long as you have pleasure. Therefore, since pleasure is emotional life, that makes it superior to being numb (emotionally dead) in which you have nothing more than mere thoughts and duty in life. Pleasure is the absolute and defining life force of "living" and a living thing that defines you as a living person and is what makes you a better and superior person because anyone would know just how good of a experience pleasure is and how much it makes life worth living and is the only thing to me that makes life worth living.

Originally Posted by MattMVS7 (Post 1479121)

So even if you were a psychopath and killed many people, as long as you have all the pleasure in the world, that would make you a far better and superior person than if you were someone who is depressed and emotionally numb and helped and cared for other people. As for happy selfish people in life who think they are better than everyone else, their happiness is what makes them better than everyone else regardless of how selfish and cruel they are.

Originally Posted by MattMVS7 (Post 1479121)

Their happiness is what makes them better than people with no happiness since, as I just stated before, pleasure is the absolute defining life force of a human being and is the only thing that makes your life worth living and allows you to make the best of your life. This also goes for what I'm about to say below which is that regardless of who you are and such and regardless of how much you help others, you would still be nothing but an inferior biological functioning machine without pleasure which is what makes people who have all the pleasure in the world better and superior regardless of how cruel and such these people are.

Originally Posted by MattMVS7 (Post 1479121)

Happy people are also better and superior since they at least get to die happy (and perhaps with even more happiness having the delusional belief in a God and an afterlife of eternal joy). But people who suffer with severe depression or anhedonia (emotional numbness) are inferior since they will likely die hopeless and/or with little to no pleasure (and perhaps with even more hopelessness being atheists who don't believe in a God or an afterlife of eternal joy).

Originally Posted by MattMVS7 (Post 1479121)

Another convincing argument for the radical reasoning I just made above is that thoughts and such without pleasure are nothing more than any other part of the brain for biological functions (such as parts of the brain responsible for movement, breathing, etc.). But pleasure is your emotional well-being here and is the only thing that makes your life worth living and is the only thing that allows you to make the best of your life.

Originally Posted by MattMVS7 (Post 1479121)

So this is why I come to the conclusion that living your life through pleasure (even if you were a psychopath) would be the only best thing here in this situation as opposed to living your life feeling numb and depressed and helping others being nothing more than mere biological functions (thoughts and actions). It would be better for you as a person because you would, again, be nothing more than mere biological functioning without pleasure regardless of how much you chose to help others and regardless of how much these helped individuals look up to you and admire you. They would have a pleasurable sense of high value and worth towards you, but you will not even be allowed to have a pleasurable sense of value and worth towards yourself in helping others and in them admiring and looking up to you.

Originally Posted by MattMVS7 (Post 1479121)

But, however, it would be better for other people if you chose not to be the psychopath and instead chose to be numb and depressed and help other people. So even if you did choose to become the lesser (nothing) person with nothing more than mere biological functions, you would be able to help other people suffering which is obviously a great thing.

Originally Posted by MattMVS7 (Post 1479121)

As for trying to make the best of your life and helping others and such having no pleasure (being nothing more than biological functioning), I would unfortunately have to say good luck on that. You will soon find that you are nothing as a person without pleasure regardless of how much you help others, regardless of who you are as a person and what your attitude is in life, and no matter what you do in life. You would find that life is completely worthless. As a result, you would then go to drastic measures to try and get your pleasure back such as electric convulsive therapy and wishing that you would rather be in a hospital bed with cancer and many other horrible things to happen to you at the same time--as long as it meant having your pleasure back.

Originally Posted by MattMVS7 (Post 1479121)

Also, let's pretend that I had no ability to experience pleasure and I wanted advice for this mental illness, people who give such "advice" such as: " I am 53 and have never had pleasure in my life, I am used to it," this is not the type of advice I need as I am an emotionally sensitive human being and not some robot who would be fine living a life without pleasure. Robots are fine living a life without pleasure because that's what they are--emotionally insensitive functioning machines. But I, on the other hand, am an emotionally sensitive human being who would not be fine living a life without pleasure and will never be fine with such a thing because, again, I am a sensitive human being and will forever remain a sensitive human being.

Originally Posted by MattMVS7 (Post 1479121)

In a way, people who give such "advice" are robots themselves because if they were truly a caring sensitive human being and truly cared for my emotional well-being (pleasure), they would instead offer me hope and comfort that I will once again experience pleasure instead of simply just giving the cold insensitive message of just getting used to it or that "Many people have problems that they have to deal with, so just deal and live with it."

Originally Posted by MattMVS7 (Post 1479121)

To me, this is not just some personal opinion--it is a fact. No matter who you are and no matter what you do in life, that does not change the fact that you are nothing more than biological functioning if you did choose to become the depressed and numb person and help others.

Originally Posted by MattMVS7 (Post 1479121)

As for me being a sensitive human being, I am sensitive in the sense that I just wish to have my pleasure back, but I am a harsh and strict believer when it comes to hedonism.

Originally Posted by MattMVS7 (Post 1479121)

Although you can consider me a sensitive human being when it comes to wanting to just have my pleasure back, you can consider me a sort of "drill instructor" when it comes to just how important pleasure is and that without it, you are nothing (nothing more than a maggot as a drill instructor would say regardless of who you are as a person and such if you were in the military). I guess, maybe, you can consider my arguments as a sort of encouragement to regain your ability to experience pleasure in life and to encourage you just how important pleasure (your emotional well-being) is. But if you can't regain your ability to experience pleasure, then you will forever be an inferior human being regardless of how much you did your best in life and such since, again, you would be nothing more than biological functions and that there is nothing in life (including making the best of your life and helping others) that will ever change that.

Originally Posted by MattMVS7 (Post 1479121)

My arguments are also geared towards an audience who think that pleasure is not that important and that there are more important things in life that define your value as a human being. Again, I do not believe that there are such things because you would, again, still be nothing more than biological functioning without pleasure.

Originally Posted by MattMVS7 (Post 1479121)

If, let's pretend again, that I were to have no ability to experience pleasure and I were to talk to someone about my inability to experience pleasure and this person were to just simply have little or no value towards my pleasure (emotional well-being) by saying something such as that life is not about pleasure and that there are more important things in life greater than your pleasure, these are opinions that I would absolutely hate which is another reason I have presented my arguments here for pleasure in the event that there are such people so I can at least try to convince them otherwise.

Originally Posted by MattMVS7 (Post 1479201)

The reason many people are whiny is that they are too much of a human being (someone great) to possibly accept or believe that there is no God or afterlife. They add their own personification as a human being and as someone great to reality itself and this is why they either whine that there is no God or afterlife or still believe that there is a God and an afterlife. In short, people who whine that there is no God or afterlife or who actually believe there is a God and an afterlife are the better people who have a sense of higher purpose/self to possibly stoop so low as to either, again, accept that there is no God and afterlife and not complain, or to no longer believe that there is a God and an afterlife.

Originally Posted by MattMVS7 (Post 1479250)

Here is a revised version of the message I was trying to get across in the previous post I just made:

To start off, you might be thinking that people who no longer believe in a God and an afterlife and complain about it are the people to be regarded as weak, immature, etc. when it is actually the exact opposite. The reason many people are whiny is that they are too much of a human being (someone great) to possibly accept that there is no God and afterlife and no longer complain about it or to no longer believe that there is a God and afterlife. They add their own personification as a human being and as someone great to reality itself and this is why they either whine that there is no God or afterlife or still believe that there is a God and an afterlife. In short, people who whine that there is no God or afterlife or who actually believe there is a God and an afterlife are the better people who have a sense of higher purpose/self to possibly stoop so low as to either, again, accept that there is no God and afterlife and not complain, or to no longer believe that there is a God and an afterlife. This sense of higher life and higher self that these people have (that they are special and that this life is special and intended for them or that, at least, they complain that it isn't and that it should be that way anyway), this is what makes these people special and "higher" (great).

Although atheists can still achieve a sense of greatness and being someone special, the fact of the matter is that they are restricted from true greatness as I've just explained since they have stooped so low into a world where, in reality, they are not that great or special as to deserve a God and an afterlife and that this life is not something special in the sense that it was intended for them and such. It doesn't matter how great and special you think you are if you are an atheist, to realize that, in reality, you are not great and special in this universe is demeaning of yourself because just by giving yourself the message that you are not that great and special, this is demeaning of you as a human being and that is what makes you a lesser person. Therefore, this is why people who have a sense of higher self and such who either complain that there is no God and afterlife or who still arrogantly believe there is a God and afterlife anyway despite much scientific evidence are the better people.

Originally Posted by skyline (Post 1479307)

If you were truely content, why strive to prove your superiority?

Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1479311)

GuitarBizarre pawn3d MattMVS7 by calling him a moron in front of every one and thusly proving his mental superiority over Matt... GB strives to prove his superiority cause it makes him happy.... well at least that is what I get from reading this thread.

Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1479224)

We can do drugs together while we're there. That's pleasure for eternity!

Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1479311)

GuitarBizarre pawn3d MattMVS7 by calling him a moron in front of every one and thusly proving his mental superiority over Matt... GB strives to prove his superiority cause it makes him happy.... well at least that is what I get from reading this thread.

Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre (Post 1479319)

Actually its because I subscribe to the theory that since CTRL+V makes a copy of something, it is capable of multiplying my happiness infinitely, providing the repeat delay of the keyboard is set low enough.

Sadly, 0 x ∞ is still 0.

Originally Posted by RoxyRollah (Post 1479395)

The sad part of this long winded rant is ,that I know what Matt was trying to say .
I can sum it up in one sentance, "Do what thou wilt,shall be the whole of the law."
I can't tell if he read Alistair Crowley' s book of the law before the bong or after.

Or he is long windedly qouting Charles Manson. "In love there no wrong" ....Now how come I can do that in two sentances? Kids and their damn drugs...

Originally Posted by Briks (Post 1479448)

I scrolled past the entire first post, didn't even bother starting on the first sentence. Can someone less lazy than me sum it up in a nice little four-line paragraph?

Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1479463)

Briks like life. Briks is happy. Briks isn't dead. Briks is superior.

Originally Posted by tore (Post 1479523)

Isn't being religious all about living in shame/guilt and a fear of going to hell? How is that pleasurable?

Some people can derive a lot of pleasure from believing really far-out ****, but that can be kinda risky. The beliefs are out of tune with knowledge and general experience and beliefs built on those lies can be like a house of cards. If it comes crashing down, you're miserable. Plus, I get pleasure out of believing that I believe in something that is actually pretty close to truth. I think everyone should, so bit of an agenda there, a bit like religious missionary.

By the way, I get why I might worry about the events leading up to death, but why would I, as an atheist, worry about being dead? I don't and I don't whine about it either. To me, being dead would be like my life in year 1000. It hadn't really started so I have no experience of it and so wouldn't care about anything either way.

Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre (Post 1479544)

Atheist attitudes to death in a nutshell - "There is literally no way to experience whatever horrors your religion has told you exist after death. Why would we worry about it?"

Originally Posted by John Wilkes Booth (Post 1479606)

what does a soul feel like?

Originally Posted by GuitarBizarre (Post 1479492)

Sansa gets banned > Nonsensical preacher shows up.

Coincidence?

Originally Posted by ladyislingering (Post 1479601)

I think it's a more peaceful state of mind to not be worried about eternal suffering. I'm going to die someday. You're going to die someday. You and I are dramatically different in many ways, but we'll both come to ashes or rot into bones. We are just human remains. Why should we care when we're going to die if it's unavoidable? Why not enjoy the thought that there is no suffering after death, especially if in many instances, suffering comes before death? I'd rather know that I'll feel nothing when I'm dead than to fear that Jesus will snark at my tattoos and damn me to hell.