No, because kindness =/= vagina winning.

Amen. This is something a lot of guys have to learn the hard way. I feel like you can't be an adult until you've had your heart smashed into a million pieces a few times.

Agreed.

Cringe at some of the things I used to do.

I want to know, do you lose respect from a woman who sleeps you quickly after meeting her?

Humor and confidence = vagina winning.

Sometimes even rejection especially for women that always get what they want.

I guess this is an open question so I'll answer

There are guys that are stuck in their ways and won't respect a chick that puts out too easily or doesn't make them work for it. They love the chase and all that stupid shit.

I honestly don't care if she puts out on the first date or tenth date if I'm into her.

The conquest type of guys most likely won't respect a woman that puts out too easily though.

told ya, what you call the "friendzone" is just a dumbfuck name for unrequited love. Happens to pretty much everyone, except me obviously.
Calling it the friendzone makes it seem like it's a horrible thing to have a friendship rather than a relationship.

I had a best friend a couple years ago who I would always talk to about my bullshit with my exfiancee and he'd always talk about his whatever and that was normal for us, then suddenly Brendan's out of the picture then Brian swoops in. It's ****ty and I would rather he'd stayed my best friend because you can rarely go back to friends when that happens. Friends are loyal. Significant others are sketch

The friend zone is more than just making it seem like a friendship is a horrible thing to have over a relationship.

There are some people that start out their relationships as friends while other people hate relationships that begins as friends and would rather just go on a date with their potential mate.

A better question to ask I guess is:

Are you the type of person can go on a date with your friend and upgrade the relationship status to dating or are you the type that prefers to not be friends with someone until after you go on the first date and decide if you want to continue dating or form a relationship as a couple?

Open question to anyone that wants to answer.

Being friendzone'd is not unrequited love. Its when you don't recognize your own weakness (as the person being friendzoned) and they refuse to cut ties with you. It ends up creating an endless loop of misery and it needs to stop. We've got a girl on our team right now who dated this guy who's generally overly affectionate. He hugs a lot, touches women, yada yada.

We basically told him the other day to cut the ****. That you can't keep doing that, even if its who you are.

As for Vanilla's question. Sleeping with someone is a matter of circumstances, not personality. Where people sometimes confuse things is the implication that sleeping together means something other than sleeping together. If we have sex the first time we meet - that's fine, and its fun. But it doesn't mean I won't quickly realize you're out of your mind and clingy.

I only think being slutty means not covering yourself medically. Its a rough world out there, and if you're having condom-less sex a lot, then I'm going to think less of you. Having a lot of sex (healthy, protected sex) doesn't make you a slut, it makes you good in bed.

The way most of y'all are describing it, it is

actually that's too kind of a term for it. it's lecherous af

No.

And what?