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Paul Smeenus 12-02-2013 11:55 AM

Oh holy fecking sh.it

Mr. Charlie 12-02-2013 11:57 AM

Haha. You love my posts.

The Batlord 12-02-2013 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Lord Larehip (Post 1390467)
It's every city in Virginia.

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Originally Posted by Lord Larehip (Post 1390470)
I lived for several years in Virginia because I was stationed in Norfolk. What a suck-ass, piece-of-sh!t state. I have nothing good to say about it because there isn't anything good to say about it. The worst, stupidest driving laws in the country--completely backwards from civilized nations. No place to get laid by anyone worth laying. The sailors didn't call it No-fvck, Vagina for nothing.

I've never lived anywhere else but I still Q this FT. I live in Hampton Roads (where Larehip is talking about) and it's a legitimately metropolitan area that has almost nothing to do. Norfolk's "bar scene" seems to be nothing more than a couple blocks of boring bars. Portsmouth has a historic district for its downtown and has a cool vibe with some better bars, but there still isn't a whole lot else to do there. Virginia Beach with it's beach is the only place to really do anything and the beach is only like a mile long I believe so it's still a pretty small area.

Unknown Soldier 12-02-2013 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1391159)
I've never lived anywhere else but I still Q this FT. I live in Hampton Roads (where Larehip is talking about) and it's a legitimately metropolitan area that has almost nothing to do. Norfolk's "bar scene" seems to be nothing more than a couple blocks of boring bars.

It used to be quite lively once upon a time, with plenty of action on the beach.

http://c2.api.ning.com/files/Mo9Nmx1....jpg?width=721

The Batlord 12-02-2013 03:35 PM

That actually did happen right near where I live. We even have a bridge tunnel called the Monitor-Merrimac.

Paul Smeenus 12-02-2013 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1391162)
It used to be quite lively once upon a time, with plenty of action on the beach.

http://c2.api.ning.com/files/Mo9Nmx1....jpg?width=721


There were some crazy/nutty goings-on just inland as well


http://images.fineartamerica.com/ima...-6-everett.jpg

FRED HALE SR. 12-02-2013 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus (Post 1391166)
There were some crazy/nutty goings-on just inland as well


http://images.fineartamerica.com/ima...-6-everett.jpg

Looks pretty scenic and beautiful minus all of the dead bodies.

The Batlord 12-02-2013 03:43 PM

You have to go to the western part of the state to get to any real nature. And then you have all the depressing, run down, redneck towns in the mountains. And past them is hillbilly territory.

Unknown Soldier 12-02-2013 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1391169)
And then you have all the depressing, run down, redneck towns in the mountains. And past them is hillbilly territory.

So these are what your neighbours past the mountains look like?

http://planetmaisie.com/wp-content/u.../hillbilly.jpg

It's like something out of a ****ing horror movie:laughing:. One of these days I need to visit the USA and actually seek these people out for a real life experience.

The Batlord 12-02-2013 03:55 PM

Never been there so I wouldn't know. I don't think most people in the South have actually ever seen a hillbilly. They're sort of like a myth. All we have are rumors, conjecture, and Deliverance.

Unknown Soldier 12-02-2013 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1391174)
Never been there so I wouldn't know. I don't think most people in the South have actually ever seen a hillbilly. They're sort of like a myth. All we have are rumors, conjecture, and Deliverance.

Are you serious in that you've never actually seen a hillbilly? Are there any official figures on how many there actually are and for which state has the highest population of them?

The Batlord 12-02-2013 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1391175)
Are you serious in that you've never actually seen a hillbilly? Are there any official figures on how many there actually are and for which state has the highest population of them?

Well we don't really have any hillbillies around the eastern part of the state that I know of. From the North Carolina border to Washington DC it's a pretty settled and metropolitan area. It's a four hour drive to the other part of the start and with nothing there past Richmond in the middle but ****burg redneck towns there isn't any reason for us to go over there.

And I have no idea how many hillbillies there actually are or if they're like the movies. But at least around here West Virginia is generally accepted to be hillbilly central where all the cousin ****ing happens. Though whether that's actually true I don't really know.

zombie kid 12-02-2013 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Charlie (Post 1390454)
I wouldn't pay these kinda lists any mind. Happiness comes from within and cannot be gauged by external factors. The only way to know if people are happy is to ask them. The kinda data these lists use to reach their conclusions make life easier, not necessarily happier.

I've travelled a fair bit in my time and the happiest people I ever met were not in America or the UK or France or Germany or Israel or any other wealthy nation. The happiest people I ever met were poverty stricken individuals in Nigeria and in India and they had nothing, they lived in dead end s**thole villages with no healthcare, one of them had half a leg and was selling bananas at the sidde of the road, and yet there was more happiness in their eyes than I've seen in anyone.

Mate, you wouldn't know miserable living conditions if they smacked you in the fucking face. I lived in Belgrade when NATO bombed the crap out of it in the late 90's. Do you know what it's like to have to live under a cement structure for 4 months, and then not know if your house is going to still be there when you get out? When you don't know if you're going to get your next meal or where it's coming from?

Stop spewing the "poverty and hardship is happiness" philosophy to everybody.

Paul Smeenus 12-02-2013 05:29 PM

^ Herm's "Poverty Porn" post is really clicking with me now

Janszoon 12-02-2013 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1391175)
Are you serious in that you've never actually seen a hillbilly? Are there any official figures on how many there actually are and for which state has the highest population of them?

:laughing:

zombie kid 12-03-2013 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus (Post 1391201)
^ Herm's "Poverty Porn" post is really clicking with me now

Yeah, I'm not sure if this Charlie guy is for real. He's ignorant though, that's for sure. You can't just go somewhere like India and see the people living on the street in the mud, and assume that they're happy because they appear that way. They may seem happy but that's because those conditions are all they know - ignorance is bliss kind of thing. Once you learn that people on the other side of the world have it way better, that goes out the window. I've been to a number of countries, both developing and industrialized and I can tell you that it's easy to see who is genuinely, inherently happy with the way they live.

The Batlord 12-03-2013 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by zombie kid (Post 1391199)
Mate, you wouldn't know miserable living conditions if they smacked you in the fucking face. I lived in Belgrade when NATO bombed the crap out of it in the late 90's. Do you know what it's like to have to live under a cement structure for 4 months, and then not know if your house is going to still be there when you get out? When you don't know if you're going to get your next meal or where it's coming from?

Stop spewing the "poverty and hardship is happiness" philosophy to everybody.

I think this might just be the most epic pwn I've ever seen. :clap:

zombie kid 12-03-2013 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord (Post 1391353)
I think this might just be the most epic pwn I've ever seen. :clap:

Haha, it's a true story too mate. Now I'm just wondering if he has anymore hippie themed posts left to put here or have we shut him up for good.

Unknown Soldier 12-03-2013 12:51 PM

Don't you people like hippies?

FRED HALE SR. 12-03-2013 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1391413)
Don't you people like hippies?

People from Belgrade like hippies?

zombie kid 12-03-2013 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1391413)
Don't you people like hippies?

I just have a problem with people thinking they know what they're talking about because they spent a week in the slums of India or something.

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1391414)
People from Belgrade like hippies?

lol. If there are hippies there you wouldn't know it. People are always well dressed and well groomed.

Cuthbert 12-03-2013 01:14 PM

Should do a UK version tbh though obviously there are less cities.

Birmingham 'is Britain's most miserable city' | Metro News

We were the most miserable in the UK apparently. Found that bizarre, as Mancs are the moodiest bastards going.

Burning Down 12-03-2013 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by zombie kid (Post 1391382)
Haha, it's a true story too mate. Now I'm just wondering if he has anymore hippie themed posts left to put here or have we shut him up for good.

Apparently not.

Mr. Charlie 12-03-2013 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by zombie kid (Post 1391199)
Mate, you wouldn't know miserable living conditions if they smacked you in the fucking face. I lived in Belgrade when NATO bombed the crap out of it in the late 90's. Do you know what it's like to have to live under a cement structure for 4 months, and then not know if your house is going to still be there when you get out? When you don't know if you're going to get your next meal or where it's coming from?

Stop spewing the "poverty and hardship is happiness" philosophy to everybody.

What does being in a war zone have to do with poverty? They are completely different scenarios. Earlier in this thread it was alluded to that poverty is to blame for misery, I was pointing out that poverty in not an obstacle to happiness, that I have met people in poverty who were happy, and that history is littered with people who were happy living in poverty.

Not once did I say one must be poor to be happy, indeed I even made it clear that I didn't believe that. If I truly believed only the poor can be happy I wouldn't be posting on the internet. I would have renounced my job, my money and all my posessions and resigned myself to a life in poverty.

As seems increasingly common on this site, people take what is said and take it to the extreme. Everything has to be black and white. It's so much easier to reach a deluded conclusion that way. No room for gray. God no.

Poverty means a certain lack of material posessions and money. It does not necessarily mean starving, does not necessarily mean dying from hyperthermia, certainly does not mean being bombed.


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Originally Posted by zombie kid (Post 1391333)
Yeah, I'm not sure if this Charlie guy is for real. He's ignorant though, that's for sure. You can't just go somewhere like India and see the people living on the street in the mud, and assume that they're happy because they appear that way. They may seem happy but that's because those conditions are all they know - ignorance is bliss kind of thing. Once you learn that people on the other side of the world have it way better, that goes out the window. I've been to a number of countries, both developing and industrialized and I can tell you that it's easy to see who is genuinely, inherently happy with the way they live.

Haha. Have you all gone mad. All forgotten how to read? I said the happiest two people I've ever met were very poor. That's it. I didn't say every poor person I've met is happy. I said what I did as evidence that poverty is not an excuse to be miserable.

Paul Smeenus 12-03-2013 05:35 PM

http://files.sharenator.com/sign_gtf...-78515-580.jpg

Mr. Charlie 12-03-2013 05:38 PM

You're the silliest of the lot. You get annoyed because people post nothing, yes empty space, in the spam thread. If nothing can anger you then it's not surprising words, thoughts, ideas and opinions do. Crazy...

Paul Smeenus 12-03-2013 05:40 PM

I consider "insults" from fools to be high praise

Janszoon 12-03-2013 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Christian Benteke (Post 1391421)
Should do a UK version tbh though obviously there are less cities.

To be fair a lot of the US "cities" mentioned in the article in the OP aren't exactly metropolises.

butthead aka 216 12-03-2013 09:32 PM

charlie i dont really like youre hippy nature either lol but hey im just bein honest. its just the mob mentality, just get used to it. ya say one thing and they will pretend ya said another, happens a lot.

for the record north of the pa/maryland border we prefer rednecks and hicks !

Mr. Charlie 12-03-2013 09:33 PM

It's cool, man. I like your honesty.

Neapolitan 12-03-2013 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier (Post 1391175)
Are you serious in that you've never actually seen a hillbilly? Are there any official figures on how many there actually are and for which state has the highest population of them?

I came in in the middle of the conversation I don't know if he answered your question. Generally the poor Scotch-Irish that lived in Appalachia are called Hillbillies. I would like to draw you a map of the states with arrows and percentages to thoroughly answer your question but I thought it would be easier (for me) if you peruse through the wiki articles for you to get a better understanding of Hillbillies etc.

Hillbilly - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Scotch-Irish American - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Appalachia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


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An estimated 90%[36] of Appalachia's earliest European settlers originated from the Anglo-Scottish border country— namely the English counties of Cumberland, Westmoreland, Northumberland, Durham, Lancashire, and Yorkshire, and the Lowland Scottish counties of Ayrshire, Dumfriesshire, Roxburghshire, Berwickshire, and Wigtownshire. Most of these were from families who had been resettled in the Ulster Plantation in northern Ireland in the 17th century,[37] but some came directly from the Anglo-Scottish border region.[38] In America, these people are often grouped under the single name "Scotch-Irish" or "Scots-Irish". While various 20th-century writers tried to associate Appalachia with Scottish highlanders, Highland Scots were a relatively insignificant percentage of the region's early European immigrants.[38]


Unknown Soldier 12-06-2013 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1391580)
I came in in the middle of the conversation I don't know if he answered your question. Generally the poor Scotch-Irish that lived in Appalachia are called Hillbillies. I would like to draw you a map of the states with arrows and percentages to thoroughly answer your question but I thought it would be easier (for me) if you peruse through the wiki articles for you to get a better understanding of Hillbillies etc.

Hillbilly - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Scotch-Irish American - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Appalachia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Firstly I never knew that Appalachia covered so much territory, but am familiar with its isolation and unique history, a pity you can't draw a map of percentages etc as it would be an interesting look.


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