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Democrat 10 25.00%
Republican 5 12.50%
Independent 9 22.50%
Other 16 40.00%
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Old 08-03-2014, 07:08 PM   #51 (permalink)
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I'm independent and it pisses my friends off. I tell them why follow one parties political standpoints and be all single minded when you can actually decide stuff yourself by the weighing the options.

I love in Southern-ish Indiana, so everyone is the stereotypical redneck republican.
So are my folks, but they've voted Republican is every single election so they might as well register as such. My Dad thought about listening to Obama's campaign in 2008, but I'm glad he didn't. It would have been one of the worst mistakes he ever made. I believe one has to be well educated and clear minded to vote, and not allow scare tactics and smokescreens to get the better half of them.

My mom is from Indiana and she graduated from medical school.
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Old 08-03-2014, 08:53 PM   #52 (permalink)
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Unless you are educated in politics your education doesn't mean much. Politics and economics in this country have been made so incredibly complicated that the average intelligent person still has no ****ing clue what's going on.

I love hearing people at work, random strangers, college kids, etc discussing these things like they have all the answers to improve society. It's just not that simple. The average person bitching about inflation and how prices need to change probably has no ****ing clue how it will affect everything else that it is connected to. The same goes for policy change.

I'm pretty sure it's intentional to keep the people with the real power in charge and keeping the masses feeling like they have an opinion. One thing will change this country, a revolution, and when it's over and all the ****ing scumbags have lost their power we will have dug ourselves into a deeper hole with even less direction and no one to blame but ourselves.

Either accept this ****hole for what it is or find somewhere to live that sucks a little less because you don't have the power to make it better. The best thing about this country is you can ****ing hate it while still enjoying it's benefits free of persecution.

I do not stand for the national anthem, I will not say the pledge of allegiance, and I will die before I ever go to war for America. But I sure as hell ain't leaving, and I have no intention of ever pushing my personal opinions on anyone else. I just do me.
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Old 08-04-2014, 12:34 AM   #53 (permalink)
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i feel similarly though i don't think a revolution is really necessary for change. i think changes are actually inevitable and happen over time but mostly they happen when you have rich and powerful groups backing them, not just random citizens. also i think a revolution is very unlikely to happen here. at least a successful one. at the end of the day i don't care that much cause this is all in all a pretty decent place to live.
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Old 08-04-2014, 12:43 AM   #54 (permalink)
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I don't feel confident in any party in NZ. Basically the party running the show is fucking up the country so bad that unemployment has gone up, wages gone down, huge increase of people on benefits, reduced job opportunities for college graduates and the country's debt has increased (we were told we'd be in surplus by now, ha!). Oh and they stop supporting loads of family charities, sold NZ's assets, are letting China by our land that we will never get back, increased GST, increased petrol tax, told the health system to make cuts, reduced wages and resources for the police...it goes on.

Basically I'm going to send a big fuck you on voting day.
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Old 08-04-2014, 01:27 AM   #55 (permalink)
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Either accept this ****hole for what it is or find somewhere to live that sucks a little less because you don't have the power to make it better. The best thing about this country is you can ****ing hate it while still enjoying it's benefits free of persecution.

I do not stand for the national anthem, I will not say the pledge of allegiance, and I will die before I ever go to war for America. But I sure as hell ain't leaving, and I have no intention of ever pushing my personal opinions on anyone else. I just do me.
Here, here. Hence why I am usually indifferent rather than angry. I don't have to worry about any secret police and french fries are still affordable. Life's good for now. And please god no revolution. I'm perfectly happy not living through the French Revolution thank you very much.
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i do meet people with pretty scary opinions. i have a neighbor who is ex-military and all that who was asking me what will i do if the state sets martial law and says i can't go out at night, would i live on my knees or die on my feet? in all honesty i'd probably just modify my schedule. but there are certainly plenty of militia-men out there with revolutionary fantasies. let's just hope they are forever content with playing dress up in the woods.
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If Mao and Robespierre are any indication then all of those "patriots" who talk about revolution and stockpiling guns are far, far worse than the corrupt douchebags they want to replace. At least politicians are predictable when they've been bought. **** revolutionaries. Why anybody ever thinks revolution is a good idea I will also never know.
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well... i would say in some instances it is in essence a necessary idea. but i don't think that is where we are at in america.
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well... i would say in some instances it is in essence a necessary idea. but i don't think that is where we are at in america.
It has to be pretty ****ing awful for revolution to be the lesser of two evils, and more often than the country seems to end up even worse than it started. I don't really count the American Revolution as a revolution in the general sense, and I can't really think of any others that ended well.
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Just to clarify: I don't want a revo, I don't think it's that bad. I'd probably react the same way as JWB and just act accordingly like a good little sheep. I don't care all that much as long as I can still do what I enjoy.
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