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Democrat 10 25.00%
Republican 5 12.50%
Independent 9 22.50%
Other 16 40.00%
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Old 09-03-2014, 09:23 PM   #121 (permalink)
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or it makes him a psychic felon that foresees the restoration of the right to vote for felons in four years. don't jump to conclusions.
Of course! Should have figured that right off the bat.
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Old 09-03-2014, 10:40 PM   #122 (permalink)
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socialism is like a dirty word in this country. it is strange because most normal americans i've met favor the few socialist vestiges we have leftover from the fdr era - medicare, medicaid, social security. but ideologically they have been trained to resist any sign of encroaching socialism.
It's a buzzword. I have the following exchange with an embarrassing number of people:

"Obama is running this country into the ground."

"Why do you say that?"

"Because he's a damn socialist!"

"Do you actually know what socialism is?"

Que some vague attempt at an explanation. I've even heard people say it's what Muslims in the Middle East practice. Read a god damned pamphlet sometime, man.
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Old 09-04-2014, 05:56 AM   #123 (permalink)
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socialism is like a dirty word in this country. it is strange because most normal americans i've met favor the few socialist vestiges we have leftover from the fdr era - medicare, medicaid, social security. but ideologically they have been trained to resist any sign of encroaching socialism.
I mean, yeah, but I'd like to do away with privately-held means of production.
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Old 09-04-2014, 09:37 AM   #124 (permalink)
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It's a buzzword. I have the following exchange with an embarrassing number of people:

"Obama is running this country into the ground."

"Why do you say that?"

"Because he's a damn socialist!"

"Do you actually know what socialism is?"

Que some vague attempt at an explanation. I've even heard people say it's what Muslims in the Middle East practice. Read a god damned pamphlet sometime, man.
QFT.

These are the same idiots who have a say in the future of this country. How do you even justify uneducated people having the right to vote?
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Old 09-04-2014, 04:11 PM   #125 (permalink)
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I mean, yeah, but I'd like to do away with privately-held means of production.
how?
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how?
I'll be honest and say that I haven't thought too hard about how to transition to this, but I'd like democratically-operated worker-run coops to replace the current system.
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These are the same idiots who have a say in the future of this country. How do you even justify uneducated people having the right to vote?
Because people should have a say in their government, even if they disagree with you and even if you think they're stupid?
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Because people should have a say in their government, even if they disagree with you and even if you think they're stupid?
Personally I think education is the best way to approach this.
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Personally I think education is the best way to approach this.
I mean sure, but no matter how great our education system is we shouldn't be denying the vote to people because they can't give a satidfactory definition of socialism.
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I'll be honest and say that I haven't thought too hard about how to transition to this,
why not?
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but I'd like democratically-operated worker-run coops to replace the current system.
with or without a state backing the system up?
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Because people should have a say in their government,
why?
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