the definition of "troll" escapes me. yes. i'm serious.

P A N · 05-02-2013, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by stp

LOL. That was a joke. Sorry, my jokes are hard to recognise sometimes.

haha. i was joking back. maybe we joke same-wise.

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Originally Posted by Hermione

I'm taking a break from my shopping to answer this without being too meta that it goes over everyone's heads and becomes "Hermione is a bitch tho wow what is joeks" again

Oh wait oops
Anyway

A troll's real definition can vary from the user or the reader's perceptions. A popular type is the malicious troll who relentlessly aims to gain the control, despite the implications and consequences. It's rage is untempered by anything resembling logic or patience, or the self awareness to see that their every barbed word is a paradox. A second kind of troll is one who sees that this troll is more than just a hateful machine, but recognises it more as an abused dog chasing it's tail in front of the owners it bites in hopes for an outreached hand. These trolls are often not truly malicious, yet will engage in similiar behaviour to the first if they detect the manifestation of insecurities and entitlement becoming less of an abstract concept, but a concrete one with real life consequences. The third kind of troll, is the sort of magical creature that AwwSugar and FETCHER defeated for me in the girl's bathrooms, in our first year at Hogwarts

now THAT'S a damn ANSWER... aside from my not knowing what "meta" means (in your usage of it) or "joeks", which could be "jokes" but i'm not sure cuz i'm not privy to what seems like a whole world of internet terminology (is this "leetspeak"?!? i've heard of that!! i'm so lame.)

anyway. hermione. you seem to know a lot about people. thank you as well this succinct reply. (even though i don't get to know what the third kind is.)

Paedantic Basterd · 05-02-2013, 01:52 AM

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P A N · 05-02-2013, 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by stp

LOL. That was a joke. Sorry, my jokes are hard to recognise sometimes.

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

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i almost sh*t myself cuz i scrolled down and saw that there were 427 pages... then i saw the search bar.

thanks. i hope i'm not the only one (in history) who might find this thread useful.

Zer0 · 05-02-2013, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ass napkin ed

lol@ how you guys are attempting to turn this around on me, I guess this place is filled w/ trolls like you guys

If you were to walk into a bar and pick a fight with everyone, would you accuse them of ganging up on you?

"I was just minding my own business officer throwing a few swings. Everyone else just walked into my fist".

Trollheart · 05-02-2013, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by P A N

haha. i was joking back. maybe we joke same-wise.

now THAT'S a damn ANSWER... aside from my not knowing what "meta" means (in your usage of it) or "joeks", which could be "jokes" but i'm not sure cuz i'm not privy to what seems like a whole world of internet terminology (is this "leetspeak"?!? i've heard of that!! i'm so lame.)

anyway. hermione. you seem to know a lot about people. thank you as well this succinct reply. (even though i don't get to know what the third kind is.)

The third kind is a joke, as in, trolls that exist in legend and folklore. Like me. But unlike those cold creatures, who live under bridges and jump out and attack unwary passers-by, I have a heart.

Oh wait! Sssh! Here comes an unwary passer-by...

To be more serious, I see a troll as someone who really is not interested in a forum, or a discussion, so much as creating arguments, bad feeling and making themselves feel superior to everyone else. Like someone running into a debating society and shouting "You're all queer!" It's someone who does things purely to be noticed and make a fuss, usually negatively. Someone who wants all the focus on them, and doesn't in any other way contribute to the forum.

That's how I read it, anyway.

~~Sansa Stark~~ · 05-02-2013, 06:40 AM

Can you hit up the Tin Man and the Lion up then and journey off?

djchameleon · 05-02-2013, 07:33 AM

Anytime you are confused about memes online just head over to know your meme. They have a pretty extensive page on trolling and the different types.

Trolling | Know Your Meme

Anyways, why is Zelda always saving the princess?

P A N · 05-02-2013, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

The third kind is a joke, as in, trolls that exist in legend and folklore. Like me. But unlike those cold creatures, who live under bridges and jump out and attack unwary passers-by, I have a heart.

Oh wait! Sssh! Here comes an unwary passer-by...

To be more serious, I see a troll as someone who really is not interested in a forum, or a discussion, so much as creating arguments, bad feeling and making themselves feel superior to everyone else. Like someone running into a debating society and shouting "You're all queer!" It's someone who does things purely to be noticed and make a fuss, usually negatively. Someone who wants all the focus on them, and doesn't in any other way contribute to the forum.

That's how I read it, anyway.

lol. i think my main problem with the forum framework is that i find it very hard to hone in on subtle things when everything is made of text. ie. i thought hermione was totally serious when she said there was a third kind. whether it be from lack of experience or lack of some mysterious facility, i currently just don't have that thing that tells me when someone is joking unless it is (perhaps more than) blatantly obvious. i'm okay with that as not knowing everything is perfectly fine to me, but as i alluded in my OP, it's definitely got me into some trouble in the past.

anyway... thanks for clearing that up TH.

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Originally Posted by Hermione

Can you hit up the Tin Man and the Lion up then and journey off?

this is one of those things i was just talking about... you know, that i just don't get.

EDIT: by that i mean it sounds to me like you're telling me to f*ck off, but i'm not even sure. :/

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

Anytime you are confused about memes online just head over to know your meme. They have a pretty extensive page on trolling and the different types.

Trolling | Know Your Meme

Anyways, why is Zelda always saving the princess?

thanks for the resource.

P A N · 05-02-2013, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

Anytime you are confused about memes online just head over to know your meme. They have a pretty extensive page on trolling and the different types.

Trolling | Know Your Meme

Anyways, why is Zelda always saving the princess?

so, i've been doing a little reading via knowyourmeme. it's interesting. as i read the below quote it dawned on me why i've been accused of trolling. i just really am that naive when it comes to a lot of things, and generally i don't let pretense or etiquette get in the way of finding common ground in terms of understanding. i will ask pretty much whatever question comes to mind, and i will feel totally innocent when i'm doing it. i would rather embrace my naivety than deny or hide it. it's just the way i am, in real life and online. if i didn't ask all the questions i do i wouldn't know anything. forever a "n00b" i suppose.

In the late 1980s, Internet users adopted the word “troll” to denote someone who intentionally disrupts online communities. Early trolling was relatively innocuous, taking place inside of small, single-topic Usenet groups. The trolls employed what the M.I.T. professor Judith Donath calls a “pseudo-naïve” tactic, asking stupid questions and seeing who would rise to the bait. The game was to find out who would see through this stereotypical newbie behavior, and who would fall for it. As one guide to trolldom puts it, “If you don’t fall for the joke, you get to be in on it."

Burning Down · 05-02-2013, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by P A N

this is one of those things i was just talking about... you know, that i just don't get.

EDIT: by that i mean it sounds to me like you're telling me to f*ck off, but i'm not even sure. :/

I don't think it was directed at you.

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