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View Poll Results: Do you believe that some people are absolutely unfit for breeding?
Yes. 9 60.00%
No. 5 33.33%
It depends on the situation. (Explain) 1 6.67%
I don't know. (Speculate.)0 0 0%
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Old 05-01-2013, 07:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I think that there are many traits that are genetically determined and in certain combinations can result in undesirables but this is not a compelling argument in violating a basic human right by removing the freedom of choice. Human beings are not just their gene pool, and it is leaving much to chance to put a stop in the natural order of things on what is not a provable issue.

Also **** that it's my uterus and I do what I want
That's true to an extent; there are some people who might not have the best genetic code, but they love their children more than anything in this entire world. There are some people who are great parents, of course, but let us not forget that there are some people that seem like they've just bred to be breeding.


Also, at least you're smart, so you'd have a reason for having a child if you wanted to. You wouldn't be polluting the gene pool with some dumbass kid that will never pick up a book, question authority, or think for themselves.
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Old 05-01-2013, 07:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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That's true to an extent; there are some people who might not have the best genetic code, but they love their children more than anything in this entire world. There are some people who are great parents, of course, but let us not forget that there are some people that seem like they've just bred to be breeding.


Also, at least you're smart, so you'd have a reason for having a child if you wanted to. You wouldn't be polluting the gene pool with some dumbass kid that will never pick up a book, question authority, or think for themselves.
But who can say what the future brings? I'm sick in the head so much that I was told that I shouldn't be able to breed. Because of a disease I did not choose. It's not feasible to build a perfect world with all desireable traits without it self imploding. Gattaca?
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But who can say what the future brings? I'm sick in the head so much that I was told that I shouldn't be able to breed. Because of a disease I did not choose. It's not feasible to build a perfect world with all desireable traits without it self imploding. Gattaca?
This is how I did it, Anton! I never saved anything for the swim back!
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This is how I did it, Anton! I never saved anything for the swim back!
That movie was so ****ing good oh my god. I don't know why this is even an argument when movies like Gattaca and books like Brave New World have existed. What do they think they are, just useless entertaining stories?
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That movie was so ****ing good oh my god. I don't know why this is even an argument when movies like Gattaca and books like Brave New World have existed. What do they think they are, just useless entertaining stories?
Gattaca rules.

I feel that no matter what opinion people have, there will be always people breeding even if you don't approve of their life and behaviours.
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But who can say what the future brings? I'm sick in the head so much that I was told that I shouldn't be able to breed. Because of a disease I did not choose. It's not feasible to build a perfect world with all desireable traits without it self imploding. Gattaca?
Someone literally said that to you? Jesus. With me it was something I discovered and realized myself - I could never burden another human life with the misery that my brain is infected with. My apologies, people are so insensitive sometimes.

But the thought of building a perfect world begs another question: what would "perfect" look like?
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Someone literally said that to you? Jesus. With me it was something I discovered and realized myself - I could never burden another human life with the misery that my brain is infected with. My apologies, people are so insensitive sometimes.

But the thought of building a perfect world begs another question: what would "perfect" look like?
Depends on one's definition of perfect I guess.

A world of pure Aryans like Hitler's vision? A world ruled by philosopher kings, chosen for their intelligence, like Plato envisioned in his Republic? A world preoccupied with and driven, by law, towards an abstract idea of reaching greatness as advovated by Nietzsche?

I think the world is already perfect. And the less we interfere with and impose our abstract ideas on it, the easier that perfection is to appreciate.
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Depends on one's definition of perfect I guess.

A world of pure Aryans like Hitler's vision? A world ruled by philosopher kings, chosen for their intelligence, like Plato envisioned in his Republic? A world preoccupied with and driven, by law, towards an abstract idea of reaching greatness as advovated by Nietzsche?

I think the world is already perfect. And the less we interfere with and impose our abstract ideas on it, the easier that perfection is to appreciate.
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