Scenario: You are offerend $50,000,000 to kill a man.

Trollheart · 02-25-2013, 06:33 PM

Yeah, it's nice to be nice. Boring story coming up, beware... nice things happen...

Going to work one morning and passed a bus-stop I don't use but do walk past. Noticed a handbag left at the stop, nobody around. Took it to work (NOT on my shoulder!) and when I had time checked out the information. Managed to get in touch with the owner by email --- they were on the way home (I worked near the airport, and they had obviously been heading back there). Arranged to send it on one of our weekly trucks that go to Holland (where they were from, obviously) and long story short, returned to owner.

No big deal, I thought: nice to do something nice and good that it worked out.

Truck came back with a big mad plant for me, looked quite expensive, thank you note. My mam (passed away now sadly) loved it and the plant lasted for years and years, always a symbol to me that sometimes you do nice things for nothing but you get something back, not because you were looking for anything but just because people think you deserve it.

Plus I certainly showed Ireland in a good light to our Dutch tourist friends...

FETCHER. · 02-25-2013, 06:38 PM

I handed a guys jacket in once, thinking nothing of it and the receptionist took my name and stuff. So I got a letter through the door one day of him thanking me cos he had valuables in his pockets and gave me a £25 gift card. It was a massive surprise cos I thought absolutely nothing of it.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 02-25-2013, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Yeah, it's nice to be nice. Boring story coming up, beware... nice things happen...

Going to work one morning and passed a bus-stop I don't use but do walk past. Noticed a handbag left at the stop, nobody around. Took it to work (NOT on my shoulder!) and when I had time checked out the information. Managed to get in touch with the owner by email --- they were on the way home (I worked near the airport, and they had obviously been heading back there). Arranged to send it on one of our weekly trucks that go to Holland (where they were from, obviously) and long story short, returned to owner.

No big deal, I thought: nice to do something nice and good that it worked out.

Truck came back with a big mad plant for me, looked quite expensive, thank you note. My mam (passed away now sadly) loved it and the plant lasted for years and years, always a symbol to me that sometimes you do nice things for nothing but you get something back, not because you were looking for anything but just because people think you deserve it.

Plus I certainly showed Ireland in a good light to our Dutch tourist friends...

Reminds me of a story that I read once on a forum I post on.

This bloke found a wallet with shit loads of cash in different currencies plus a bunch of cards, diplomatic and government ID, documents etc, searched it and found a number, phoned it and a voice answered "you've got my wallet"

Dropped it off for him (he had left it on the roof of his car then driven off) and he thanked this guy and that was that.

1 week later - Belgian chocolates, A bottle of single malt, A bottle of champagne and a bouquet of flowers was delivered to his house!

He hadn't even given him his address...

Trollheart · 02-25-2013, 08:05 PM

Sounds like they knew he had the wallet and if he HADN'T returned it, well, let's just say bad things would have happened. You don't mess with the government! I mean, it goes all the way up to the PRESIDENT!!!!

"You've got my wallet!"

The Batlord · 02-26-2013, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Um, no it wouldn't. If it did I'd consider robbing a bank or mugging someone or insurance fraud. Boring as it may seem, I'm from the school of thought that believe you reap what you sow, and so if I got rich by virtue of an immoral, to say nothing of illegal act, I'd never be able to enjoy it and I'd feel like I was lying to my sister, who would surely ask where all this money had come from? I'd be expecting bad things to happen, even if they didn't. Anyway, I always try to put myself in the other guy's shoes, and I would certainly not want anyone taking money to kill me, or my sister, people they don't even know. Do unto others (then split) as they say... And no, I'm not in the least religious. I just think you should treat people as you would like to be treated.

I think you're still missing my point. I know the moral argument. It's not at all hard to understand. My point is that in the heat of the moment who knows what will or will not go through your mind? Assuming that you know seems like a lack of imagination or a refusal to consider other points of view on your part.

Not trying to sound like a douche, but I prefer to not pull my logical punches even when debating one of my fav people on the site.

Trollheart · 02-26-2013, 07:57 PM

Okay, well I still don't see how it's "heat of the moment". The question is would you if given this opportunity kill someone for money. So if I opened my door tomorrow and there was a guy standing there with a case of cash saying this is yours if you kill some guy, would I feel like taking the offer? Maybe, for a split second, I'm not going to deny the temptation would flit through my mind. But immediately I'd say no. I just couldn't kill anyone, it's not in me. I don't care how much money you offer me.

Now if you were waiting for me to admit I'd very briefly consider it, sure, I admit it. But I wouldn't think about it for more than a few seconds, and I would always come to the same conclusion. Imagine I did it, and my sis asks where did the money come from? Oh, I just had to kil mumble mumble mutter... Uh, you didn't answer, you just trailed off. Yeah, I did kind of trail off there, didn't I?

It's one of the times when I can categorically state no, I would not do this and I would not need to make a decision: it's already made. Unless they threatened to hurt my sister and I was forced to do it, then maybe I would. But for pure financial gain, with no pressure that I had to accept the offer? No.

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02-25-2013, 06:33 PM	#121 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,994	Yeah, it's nice to be nice. Boring story coming up, beware... nice things happen... Going to work one morning and passed a bus-stop I don't use but do walk past. Noticed a handbag left at the stop, nobody around. Took it to work (NOT on my shoulder!) and when I had time checked out the information. Managed to get in touch with the owner by email --- they were on the way home (I worked near the airport, and they had obviously been heading back there). Arranged to send it on one of our weekly trucks that go to Holland (where they were from, obviously) and long story short, returned to owner. No big deal, I thought: nice to do something nice and good that it worked out. Truck came back with a big mad plant for me, looked quite expensive, thank you note. My mam (passed away now sadly) loved it and the plant lasted for years and years, always a symbol to me that sometimes you do nice things for nothing but you get something back, not because you were looking for anything but just because people think you deserve it. Plus I certainly showed Ireland in a good light to our Dutch tourist friends... __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

02-25-2013, 08:05 PM	#124 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,994	Sounds like they knew he had the wallet and if he HADN'T returned it, well, let's just say bad things would have happened. You don't mess with the government! I mean, it goes all the way up to the PRESIDENT!!!! *"You've got my wallet!"* __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

02-26-2013, 07:57 PM	#126 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,994	Okay, well I still don't see how it's "heat of the moment". The question is would you if given this opportunity kill someone for money. So if I opened my door tomorrow and there was a guy standing there with a case of cash saying this is yours if you kill some guy, would I feel like taking the offer? Maybe, for a split second, I'm not going to deny the temptation would flit through my mind. But immediately I'd say no. I just couldn't kill anyone, it's not in me. I don't care how much money you offer me. Now if you were waiting for me to admit I'd very briefly consider it, sure, I admit it. But I wouldn't think about it for more than a few seconds, and I would always come to the same conclusion. Imagine I did it, and my sis asks where did the money come from? Oh, I just had to kil mumble mumble mutter... Uh, you didn't answer, you just trailed off. Yeah, I did kind of trail off there, didn't I? It's one of the times when I can categorically state no, I would not do this and I would not need to make a decision: it's already made. Unless they threatened to hurt my sister and I was forced to do it, then maybe I would. But for pure financial gain, with no pressure that I had to accept the offer? No. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018