Was the past a more optimistic time than the present?

Black Francis · 02-19-2013, 09:35 PM

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Lol fair enough, I guess I just liked the pop culture of that era the best and didn't take into consideration all the political and social issues

im with you lol

i was oblivious to those back then

Stephen · 02-19-2013, 09:39 PM

Don't know how many are familiar with this graphic novel from 1982? Pretty much says it all.

midnight rain · 02-19-2013, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

im with you lol

i was oblivious to those back then

Yeah I wasn't suggesting that any decade is completely free of those kinds of issues, but there are definitely decades where it seems they were more on the public's conscious

That and I just like mopey British/American indie rock, new wave and post-punk lol

Black Francis · 02-19-2013, 09:46 PM

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Yeah I wasn't suggesting that any decade is completely free of those kinds of issues, but there are definitely decades where it seems they were more on the public's conscious

i don't recall things being that bad then..
i don't live in the USA so their problem didn't really affect us, but i remember back then we didn't label just anyone a "Terrorist" ppl didn't have that 9/11 paranoia they had now

pharmaceutical companies weren't shoving anti-depressants down our throats and restless leg syndrome wasn't a disease lol

**Janszoon** · 02-19-2013, 10:10 PM

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Yeah I wasn't suggesting that any decade is completely free of those kinds of issues, but there are definitely decades where it seems they were more on the public's conscious

I think that's more a product of perception than anything. It's easy to look back with the benefit of hindsight and underestimate how scary a given era was for the people living in it who had no idea how things were going to turn out.

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That and I just like mopey British/American indie rock, new wave and post-punk lol

I love a lot of it too. And I relate to why those people were so mopey back then.

midnight rain · 02-19-2013, 10:55 PM

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I think that's more a product of perception than anything. It's easy to look back with the benefit of hindsight and underestimate how scary a given era was for the people living in it who had no idea how things were going to turn out.

All true definitely. I imagine my grandkids could learn everything there is to know about 9/11 and still not fully grasp the way we felt when it happened

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I love a lot of it too. And I relate to why those people were so mopey back then.

**Janszoon** · 02-19-2013, 10:57 PM

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Is that a mopey face?

Godstone · 02-20-2013, 01:07 AM

80s pop music: Michael Jackson & Madonna & Prince at their peak, plus HipHop & Indie & New Wave & Electro & Goth & Metal & so on and so forth.

00s pop music: Emo.

LoathsomePete · 02-20-2013, 01:16 AM

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No, they weren't better times. As stp mentioned, everybody in the 80s was terrified that the entire planet was going to be annihilated in a nuclear war. It really can't be overstated how much this was in the public consciousness. Also, as the 80s wore on people were absolutely terrified of AIDS and thought it was going to be the new bubonic plague. And Merkins were scared of being sucked into another Vietnam in Central America. Plus, the stock market crashed in 1987 and everyone thought we were going to spin into another great depression. And the Challenger blew up and obliterated all the hope and optimism of the space age. And people were terrified of airplane hijackers. And everybody thought crack cocaine was going to destroy civilization. And everybody was scared of child abductions. And us Merkins had an empty suit in the White House who stood for everything shallow and lame about our culture. And that was just the 80s. I'll save my 90s rant for later.

If Rob Liefeld isn't a part of that rant I'll be very disappointed.

Cinnamonics · 02-20-2013, 09:27 AM

Meh, things were no better or worse back then. But very different, of course. I'm not sure how I made the days go by without internet and an endless stream of entertainment. On the other hand, the brain certainly could relax more back then, I swear it gets overloaded too often these days. Music-wise I would argue that life gets better for every day, since we get the occasional good new release, while we keep all the classics. And with internet, if you want to dive into a certain era, like 80s New Wave, for example, why, you can just fake it on your own, easily. Overall, nostalgia is a very flawed phenomenon, and something best avoided by creating new worthwhile experiences/memories. I'll stop now before I go off the rails.

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Stephen I sleep in your hat Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Melbourne, Vic. Aus. Posts: 1,847	Don't know how many are familiar with this graphic novel from 1982? Pretty much says it all.

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Godstone Groupie Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 7	80s pop music: Michael Jackson & Madonna & Prince at their peak, plus HipHop & Indie & New Wave & Electro & Goth & Metal & so on and so forth. 00s pop music: Emo.

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Cinnamonics Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 117	Meh, things were no better or worse back then. But very different, of course. I'm not sure how I made the days go by without internet and an endless stream of entertainment. On the other hand, the brain certainly could relax more back then, I swear it gets overloaded too often these days. Music-wise I would argue that life gets better for every day, since we get the occasional good new release, while we keep all the classics. And with internet, if you want to dive into a certain era, like 80s New Wave, for example, why, you can just fake it on your own, easily. Overall, nostalgia is a very flawed phenomenon, and something best avoided by creating new worthwhile experiences/memories. I'll stop now before I go off the rails.