Trite sayings that people think are profound.

**Frownland** · 12-01-2018, 11:16 PM

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LMAO Frown please be my guest and debunk religion right here and now. Totally. With complete, indisputable, verifiable proof to boot. You'd be saving the human race a great deal of hardship it's gone through since we gained cognizance.

The truth is you can't disprove the existence of a deity because of how slippery of a concept it is.

"Well how do you explain lightning, Christian?"

"Magic."

When the power of god, aka magic comes into play, literally every scientific concept gets thrown out of the window. And you can't disprove it because of how incredibly intangible it is. There's a reason that such a large amount of the Earth's population is religious, because you can't just walk up to them and say "you're wrong because of 1 2 and 3 and there's absolutely no logical reasoning, fanciful or otherwise, that can disprove me" because the concept of religion is inherently disprovable.

The essential argument against religion, putting aside the countless upon countless piles of scientific evidence to say the contract, is occam's razor. The reason people are atheists is because when they're faced with the concept of an uncaring and chaotic universe and a mythological magical sky daddy, they're likely to shave Yaweh off.

Because being infalsifiable makes Christianity equatable to atheism, right? Flying spaghetti monster blah blah blah it's a weak false equivalency that you're invoking.

windsock · 12-01-2018, 11:18 PM

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Because being infalsifiable makes Christianity equatable to atheism, right? Flying spaghetti monster blah blah blah it's a weak false equivalency that you're invoking.

Not really that false. There's reasons why religious debate tends to be polar. Infalsifiability is what drives the discourse, or else one side would have triumphed over the other a long time ago.

**Frownland** · 12-01-2018, 11:20 PM

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Not really that false.

Seems like you don't really understand atheism, then.

Religious debates are polar because they often start off with a faulty premise.

windsock · 12-01-2018, 11:26 PM

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Seems like you don't really understand atheism, then.

My lesson for tonight: I don't understand this concept because blah blah blah (subjective viewpoint) blah blah (unrelated concept) blah blah. Thanks for making it so I don't have to take a philosophy course in university. That **** would be tedious.

**Frownland** · 12-01-2018, 11:36 PM

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My lesson for tonight: I don't understand this concept because, while well-meaning, applying the logical equivalency of apparent fact to wholly illogical and invalidated concepts is counter-intuitive.

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windsock · 12-01-2018, 11:46 PM

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Don't you have a son to strangle or something, Homer?

**Frownland** · 12-01-2018, 11:54 PM

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Don't you have a son to strangle or something, Homer?

No and gladly so, but I'm not sure what that has to do with your lack of critical thinking.

Lucem Ferre · 12-01-2018, 11:25 PM

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Not really that false. There's reasons why religious debate tends to be polar. Infalsifiability is what drives the discourse, or else one side would have triumphed over the other a long time ago.

Mmmm, no not really.

Because it goes back to most people seeing a lack of a god or a higher meaning as negative. The idea of god is comforting to a lot of people.So people are going to go with what comforts them rather than what's logical majority of the time.

windsock · 12-01-2018, 11:28 PM

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Mmmm, no not really.

Because it goes back to most people seeing a lack of a god or a higher meaning as negative. The idea of god is comforting to a lot of people.So people are going to go with what comforts them rather than what's logical majority of the time.

And that comforting thought happens to be unfalsifiable which is why religion is so frustrating. I'm sure if you drilled a religious person long enough on why they believe what they believe they'd eventually say "well you can't disprove it!"

Unfortunately that's just indicative of not being able to please or, in this case, convince everybody.

Lucem Ferre · 12-01-2018, 11:33 PM

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And that comforting thought happens to be unfalsifiable which is why religion is so frustrating. I'm sure if you drilled a religious person long enough on why they believe what they believe they'd eventually say "well you can't disprove it!"

Unfortunately that's just indicative of not being able to please or, in this case, convince everybody.

No, I haven't because I don't care. There is a difference between being religious and being a theist. You can disprove religions such as there being no evidence of Jesus's existence outside of the bible when there should be plenty of references in other historical texts or maybe even remains. But you can't disprove theism.