Trite sayings that people think are profound.

Lucem Ferre · 12-01-2018, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by windsock

First part affirms that pessimism is in opposition to optimism. Not super related to nihilism itself, I mainly pointed it out so you guys would know what I'm talking about.

Second part: have you ever considered why pessimists gravitate towards nihilism? Could it be that they are somehow...linked?

It's because it's commonly thought that the lack of a higher meaning is negative when that's just a matter of opinion. We already went over this.

At the same time it also says that not all pessimists are nihilists. If you want to truly revel in pessimism you'd believe that we were all created to suffer. Actually, I think Frown already said that.

windsock · 12-01-2018, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Lucem Ferre

It's because it's commonly thought that the lack of a higher meaning is negative when that's just a matter of opinion. We already went over this.

At the same time it also says that not all pessimists are nihilists. If you want to truly revel in pessimism you'd believe that we were all created to suffer. Actually, I think Frown already said that.

Again, I'm not saying the lack of higher meaning is negative. I'm saying it's pessimistic. I already went over this as well.

If you were a true pessimist you'd believe that because existence is meaningless, progress is futile and the continuance of such is pointless because it's not like we're going to go anywhere anyway. It's an extremely anti-life-affirming way of viewing things, and nihilism differs in the way that although it agrees existence is overall meaningless, it takes a more optimistic view in areas like human progress.

WWWP · 12-01-2018, 11:15 PM

Nietzsche referred to "dionysian pessimism," an embrace of life as it is in all of its constant change and suffering without appeal to progress or hedonistic calculus.