Trite sayings that people think are profound.

**Frownland** · 12-02-2018, 08:53 AM

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I've also learned that Frown would probably ban himself before he would ever concede a point to another person in an argument. Eventually it'll boil down to his opponent not being able to understand concepts whatsoever despite providing and clearly outlining the meaning of peer-reviewed evidence.

Or maybe I just don't agree with the colloquially driven ad hoc take on nihilism's roots that you're pitching.

Oriphiel · 12-02-2018, 08:55 AM

The Batlord · 12-02-2018, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by windsock

LMAO Frown please be my guest and debunk religion right here and now. Totally. With complete, indisputable, verifiable proof that cannot be vetoed by any sort of logic to boot. You'd be saving the human race a great deal of hardship it's gone through since we gained

I got a flat tire on a Sunday and had to walk two miles home.

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Originally Posted by windsock

Similarly, I don't think a "true" nihilist could exist either because they'd either being a husk of a person or a husk that's hellbent on destroying things that it perceives to be meaningless, i.e. everything. Perhaps such an individual has existed in the past but I haven't heard of 'em.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Panzram

Oriphiel · 12-02-2018, 12:06 PM

WWWP · 12-02-2018, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Dharma & Greg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Panzram

lmfao

windsock · 12-02-2018, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Frownland

Or maybe I just don't agree with the colloquially driven ad hoc take on nihilism's roots that you're pitching.

The evidence I've provided thus far is the opposite of colloquial. These are philosophies that have been outlined in literature and by experts numerous times across history. Nietzsche, Schopenhauer and the ancient Greeks aren't just some guys that I know from school.

But it's good to know the reason you refuse evidence or outside opinion is just because you simply disagree. At least you're being honest about your close-mindedness.

de gierer · 12-02-2018, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by windsock

The evidence I've provided thus far is the opposite of colloquial. These are philosophies that have been outlined in literature and by experts numerous times across history. Nietzsche, Schopenhauer and the ancient Greeks aren't just some guys that I know from school.

But it's good to know the reason you refuse evidence or outside opinion is just because you simply disagree. At least you're being honest about your close-mindedness.

Which of the Greeks are you referring to? Plato influenced Herr Arthur Schopenhauer, but so did Herr Immanuel Kant, who is worlds apart from many of his views. Aren't the auncient Vedics closer to Herr Arthur Schopenhauer's Filosofia?

windsock · 12-02-2018, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by de gierer

Which of the Greeks are you referring to? Plato influenced Herr Arthur Schopenhauer, but so did Herr Immanuel Kant, who is worlds apart from many of his views. Aren't the auncient Vedics closer to Herr Arthur Schopenhauer's Filosofia?

Nietzsche wrote the ideas of pre-Socratic philosophers in Ancient Greece in regards to their kind of proto-pessimism. He specifically pointed to Anaximander (who predates Plato quite a bit iirc) as a "true pessimist", though like I said before I'm not well-read enough in Greek philosophy to know the subtle nuances between their brand and present-day pessimist thought.

As for the Vedics, I'm not very familiar with Vedic-era literature other than some cursory knowledge of the Rigveda and Kautilya's Arthashastra (which I believe is Vedic era but I could be wrong), so I honestly don't know how much influence they had on Schopenhauer. If you'd like to enlighten me on that though I'd very much like the knowledge.

de gierer · 12-02-2018, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by windsock

Nietzsche wrote the ideas of pre-Socratic philosophers in Ancient Greece in regards to their kind of proto-pessimism. He specifically pointed to Anaximander (who predates Plato quite a bit iirc) as a "true pessimist", though like I said before I'm not well-read enough in Greek philosophy to know the subtle nuances between their brand and present-day pessimist thought.

As for the Vedics, I'm not very familiar with Vedic-era literature other than some cursory knowledge of the Rigveda and Kautilya's Arthashastra (which I believe is Vedic era but I could be wrong), so I honestly don't know how much influence they had on Schopenhauer. If you'd like to enlighten me on that though I'd very much like the knowledge.

Not an authority, either, but this is what I have gleaned.

Shame that you aren't a Classicist. Looking for early texts on Musicology.

windsock · 12-02-2018, 03:35 PM

Yeah, sorry man. Wish I could help you but I'm a bit of a peanut brain.

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